Runners that don't/can't eat much. How are you handling the training?

Definitely an ED and likely some other undiagnosed mental problems.

Running shouldn't figure into your busy life anyway.

frogs wrote:

I like how "getting things done" and bootlicking for clients makes the list of things that are "actually important" while seeing to your organism's nutritional and caloric needs is deemed "getting in the way." Is there any portion of natural human existence you americans can't pervert?

This.

dude(tte), running is a hobby. the only reason I posted on here is because I am trying to support my "habit" of running 50+ mpw

For those that say I have an ED, here's my diet yesterday:

Breakfast (coffee black, a pear, a piece of bread, and raspberries) - too busy or too lazy to get anything else.

Lunch (very late,like 3:30 pm): normal sized burrito and a 16 oz (?) kale shake

Dinner (at 10:45 pm): burger with cheese and bacon and fries/chips, and a 12 oz beer. also some aspirin as I was getting a headache.

Granted, this is not typical, as I eat more for breakfast and less for lunch and dinner typically, and this was the first time I ate bacon in a long time, but I certainly don't feel guilty, aside from the expense, of all this I ate yesterday.

For another poster that asked, yes I do feel tired, which is partially what precipitated this thread.

People with eating disorders always have a rationalization for it. Get counseling ASAP please.

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This...

You have starved yourself for so long that you can't eat if you wanted to...

You've likely destroyed your metabolism and hormone levels.

BTW: What the heck is "runner proportions"???

You mean LARGE meals.

Please see a doctor.

I does not seem to me that you have an eating disorder. I, too, and a small guy, and sometimes have problems "getting in" enough calories. My weekly long run is usually a 1,500-1,700 calorie affair, and it is simply hard to put this back in a single day. How some elite athletes (swimmers, for example) even have enough time in a day to consume the necessary calories puzzles me.

I have been eating natural/organic for about ten years, and this has fostered the most significant improvement to date. Look for quality foods and beverages (i.e. natural/organic...no GMOs, pesticides, artificial ingredients, etc.) that are, simply, high in calories. I do no calorie counting or conventional nutritionism (i.e. obsession with fat and such). I just look for calories, and to keep my protein and carb intake up. I also look to get an extra gram or two of protein from my beverages (i.e. tart cherry juice has 2g of protein...and this juice is also good for inflammation). Of course, milk will provide the most protein in a beverage, but I can have a hard time digesting a lot of milk.

Still, it is a difficult battle for guys in our shoes (running shoes, of course). I wish you well, and will post any other relevant ideas I may have.

Breakfast (coffee black, a pear, a piece of bread, and raspberries) - too busy or too lazy to get anything else. Lunch (very late,like 3:30 pm): normal sized burrito and a 16 oz (?) kale shake. Dinner (at 10:45 pm): burger with cheese and bacon and fries/chips, and a 12 oz beer. also some aspirin as I was getting a headache. For another poster that asked, yes I do feel tired, which is partially what precipitated this thread.

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This confirms...you have an eating disorder.

You feel tired and have headaches...because you have an eating disorder.

OP: I'm in similar boat, due to small stomach and reflux issues. And I just don't like to eat. I sort of understand people labeling this as ED, b/c most people love to eat. I've had myself checked out though, and while my BMI is on low end, all blood testing indicates everything is great, so my doc just shrugs.

Anyway, here are some tactics I've used to deal with it (at 70mpw ave):

- hydrate with gatorade or similar immediately after every run.

- large glass (~20oz) of whole milk / soy milk and carnation breafast mix immediately after every run.

- large glass of whole milk / soy milk mix before bed.

- "ultimate meal" with fruit juice 4-5x per week, taken between meals.

- lots of bananas, trail mix or just plain bread slices on hand for casual snacking.

- all of this on top of normal 3 daily meals (which don't tend to be very big for me).

- my regular meals are pretty loaded with fat (avocados, fish, nuts, butter, high-fat meat, etc).

- drinking lots of fluid seems to help me stomach more food.

- Prilosec OTC to manage acid reflux seems to really help as well.

This is good advice. I, too, have occasional reflux issues, and the worst kind is when you are sleeping and it literally feels like you are going to choke to death...very frightening.

Yes, carbs, protein, fat. Just do the opposite of the conventional thinking/method, and you should improve.

outsiderunner wrote:

Yes, carbs, protein, fat.

So, what exactly is left?

harlem has it mostly right.

Especially, the OP needs to drink more fluids.

But both the OP and harlem HAVE eating disorders.

Do they have anorexia? No

Do they have bulimia? No

Do they have the normal American hog syndrome? No

Will a doctor come up with a diagnosis? No

Like everything else eating disorders have a continuum of severity. Both seem to have mild eating disorders. harlem's might be called fear of junk food but that may not be taking the reflux into account enough. harlem has been responsible enough to see a doctor about it. The OP should see a doctor or 3 as well.

Look OP, 55 mpw is not much. It sounds like the rest of your time is spent at a desk. It shouldn't be difficult to eat enough to fuel that kind of a day.

Think of it this way. Right now it may not be a problem but if you do anything out of the ordinary long enough you usually cause problems. Chronically eating so little that you drag through your day is a problem.

Thanks y'all

OP, you are either a HUGE p*ssy or you have an eating disorder. Without going into it, i'll qualify my following post by saying that I am a high level athlete.

Yesterday I ate:

7:30-

oatmeal with pb and brown sugar

3 eggs with hash browns and turkey bacon

a glass of milk and two cups of coffee

10:00-

smoothie with mango, banana, blueberries, frozen yogurt, flax seeds, milk and a 20g scoop of whey protein

12:30-

3 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches

fiber bar

apple

greek yogurt

4:00-

fruit snacks(quick pre workout sugar boost)

7:00-

2 large grilled chicken breasts

potato, corn, and carrots

rice with scrambled eggs

9:00-

frozen yogurt

time for a change wrote:

OP, you are either a HUGE p*ssy or you have an eating disorder.

Correct.

As mentioned by another poster, 55mpw is not a lot and one should easily be able to consumer enough calories to offset expenditure.

OP - start eating earlier. by the time you start your lunch at 3:30pm I've already consumed three meals. small breakfast before my run, run, bigger breakfast, lunch at noon, snack at 2 or 3pm. Don't eat crap like bacon just because it's more calorically dense. Just stop with the laziness / disorder eatting. It's not hard, you're just being a vagina.