What was Kimetto's 'casual training'?

Jerry wrote:

Are those badger miles though?

Honey Badger miles in Africa. Much tougher than the American Badger.

From the runnertimes article right before he set the world record:

"Kimetto had always displayed a penchant for running, frequently winning schoolboy races"

So he had been a runner when he was younger, then stopped training full time to become a farmer but did a few miles a day to stay in shape.

bigtool05 wrote:

From the runnertimes article right before he set the world record:

"Kimetto had always displayed a penchant for running, frequently winning schoolboy races"

So he had been a runner when he was younger, then stopped training full time to become a farmer but did a few miles a day to stay in shape.

This supports the brojos' mantra that "talent doesn't go away".

bigtool05 wrote:

From the runnertimes article right before he set the world record:

"Kimetto had always displayed a penchant for running, frequently winning schoolboy races"

So he had been a runner when he was younger, then stopped training full time to become a farmer but did a few miles a day to stay in shape.

Winning schoolboy races says nothing about training. That's mostly inherent ability.

How many schoolboys train "full time" or even at all?

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

bigtool05 wrote:

From the runnertimes article right before he set the world record:

"Kimetto had always displayed a penchant for running, frequently winning schoolboy races"

So he had been a runner when he was younger, then stopped training full time to become a farmer but did a few miles a day to stay in shape.

This supports the brojos' mantra that "talent doesn't go away".

Their talent did. So did Webb's.

Dick Doobey wrote:

28 minutes on 28 miles wrote:

Kimetto had about four cows. Not a lot of cardio there.

Yes, it was roughly 4 cows. I think 4.25 to be exact. WTF???

Of course, there could be some cardio involved if the .25 cow wasn't at least 2 legs. Imagine carrying a quarter of a cow around all day???

are you trying to funny?

"about" can mean approximately, therefore "about 4 cows" meant approximately 4 cows, as in, could have been 3, could have 5.

You really thought this was something to try and mock?

Farm animal numbers tend to be in a state of constant flux but Dick probably knows that.

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

tending cattle in east africa can mean going long distances with them to find enough food, so he may have been very active.

or not....

"Kimetto said he had been growing maize and tending a few cows." Sounds hard-core. Much moreso than the 1000's and 1000's of american kids who start serious swim training at a young age and keep at it all through their youth, or the american kids who play sports all season, including running sports like soccer, and bike back and forth to school each day. Not all americans are fat and sedentary. Many are extremely active at kids. A big fat ZERO of them can run under *2:06. (and only a couple under 2:09). How many east africans under 2:06 now?? Too many to count.

Post of the week.

It ain't the farming.

(*record eligible course. )

Kimetto's farm was near Eldoret. The road he probably used to get to town is a famous route for runs in Eldoret used by many of the training groups. Kimetto was probably doing some runs with the local training groups. That is supposedly how he was discovered. Being a subsistence farmer is not training. But spending 12-16 hours a day doing hard physical labor on your feet will keep you very lean and ready to adopt an elite training schedule.

Genee wrote:

Their talent did. So did Webb's.

??????

Genee wrote:

Winning schoolboy races says nothing about training. That's mostly inherent ability.

How many schoolboys train "full time" or even at all?

In Kenya, almost all of them. 80 mpw isn't uncommon, just going to school and back every day. Canova has even stated, all Kenyans are physically active, and that Americans would be faster too under that lifestyle.

Precious Roy wrote:

But spending 12-16 hours a day doing hard physical labor on your feet will keep you very lean and ready to adopt an elite training schedule.

12-16 hours seems excessive, even for a subsistence farmer. What exactly would you do for 12-16 hours? His father raised and sold cattle. Maybe he carried them around all day.

genetics

Haven't you guys heard of crop fit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Ew0Zl0hGA

12-16 hours seems excessive, even for a subsistence farmer. What exactly would you do for 12-16 hours? His father raised and sold cattle. Maybe he carried them around all day.[/quote]

Eccentric calf raises

Strange that a bunch of American farmers have not burst onto the elite scene, although Rupp does look a bit like a farmers boy

Doclove wrote:

12-16 hours seems excessive, even for a subsistence farmer. What exactly would you do for 12-16 hours? His father raised and sold cattle. Maybe he carried them around all day.

Eccentric calf raises

Strange that a bunch of American farmers have not burst onto the elite scene, although Rupp does look a bit like a farmers boy[/quote]

They could if they wanted to. That's the whole point of the "environmentalists" in this debate. Maybe you should recruit some and train them to be world beaters? The Amish are tough, whaddya think?

Math Major wrote:

Genee wrote:

Winning schoolboy races says nothing about training. That's mostly inherent ability.

How many schoolboys train "full time" or even at all?

In Kenya, almost all of them. 80 mpw isn't uncommon, just going to school and back every day. Canova has even stated, all Kenyans are physically active, and that Americans would be faster too under that lifestyle.

Tergat lived half a mile from school and walked.

Kenyans sometimes run 80 mpw to and from school because they can. It's a relict of their warrior and cattle tending culture.

It would be rather odd that every school seems to be in that magic base-building zone according to those giving credibility to that being the reason for their success. They are never just two 2 from school or 12. It's always 6.

In response to your above question, the brojos and Webb's talent vanished. Talent does go away.

Yes, talent does go away. Former elites soon become also rans. If anyone cares to study marathon race results enough they will see the names of former world class runners way down the results list.

Genee wrote:

Math Major wrote:

In Kenya, almost all of them. 80 mpw isn't uncommon, just going to school and back every day. Canova has even stated, all Kenyans are physically active, and that Americans would be faster too under that lifestyle.

Tergat lived half a mile from school and walked.

Is Tergat the one that won schoolboy races? No. Irrelevant.

Genee wrote:

In response to your above question, the brojos and Webb's talent vanished. Talent does go away.

You have a strange obsession.