Running 80mpw for the first time this week and I am getting FAST now. Easy pace is 7:20/mi from 7:50's
Running 80mpw for the first time this week and I am getting FAST now. Easy pace is 7:20/mi from 7:50's
100Bound wrote:
Running 80mpw for the first time this week and I am getting FAST now. Easy pace is 7:20/mi from 7:50's
Don't let your highs get too high and your lows too low. Just because you feel great now doesn't mean an injury isn't looming. I suggest keeping your easy pace as it was while you increase mileage. You can always increase your easy pace to 7:20 again once you're at a steady mileage.
Thanks for the news man!
Also can you provide us the distribution of your mileage during the week?
I am looking to do about the same thing than you in a few weeks or months (for the moment I need a good reconditionning period after several achille injuries) so I am very interested about how you manage to increase your mileage.
Also what kind of shoes do you wear?
100Bound wrote:
Running 80mpw for the first time this week and I am getting FAST now. Easy pace is 7:20/mi from 7:50's
This is not a good sign. Wait at least two weeks in the 80mpw range to make such assertions.
NotYourCoach wrote:
100Bound wrote:Running 80mpw for the first time this week and I am getting FAST now. Easy pace is 7:20/mi from 7:50's
This is not a good sign. Wait at least two weeks in the 80mpw range to make such assertions.
Yesterday I was running around 8:30-9:00/mi pace. I am going off of feel entirely and not pushing any of my runs. If I feel hurt of an injury I simply dont run.
How am I able to run this many miles without injury? Because on 50mpw, I had a few days a few where I doubled and hit 15-16 miles. Your body has absolutely no clue on weekly mileage. It just remembers day to day, and what you want to do is add one day a week where you run a double of 12-15 miles, then slowly add more and more of those in during the week until you hit those numbers everyday.
French guy wrote:
Thanks for the news man!
Also can you provide us the distribution of your mileage during the week?
I am looking to do about the same thing than you in a few weeks or months (for the moment I need a good reconditionning period after several achille injuries) so I am very interested about how you manage to increase your mileage.
Also what kind of shoes do you wear?
All in Saucony shoes. Just a personal preference and I have never gotten injured since I switch to them from Brooks, which I did get a couple injuries in previously.
Right now I am running 10-14 miles per day. 7-10 in the morning, with an easy 4 (around 9:00/mi pace) at night to help recover. Morning runs are usually always easy-moderate pace. Once a week I throw in some fartleks. Once a week I try to do a long run, currently at 12 miles.
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How am I able to run this many miles without injury? Because on 50mpw, I had a few days a few where I doubled and hit 15-16 miles. Your body has absolutely no clue on weekly mileage. It just remembers day to day, and what you want to do is add one day a week where you run a double of 12-15 miles, then slowly add more and more of those in during the week until you hit those numbers everyday.
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Why should your body have a clue on daily mileage but not an weekly mileage? This is an absurd way of thinking. If you really believe this you can jump run these 15-16 miles every day.
Nevertheless, I am curious what this mileage jump will bring. Good luck, stay healthy!
my advice wrote:
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How am I able to run this many miles without injury? Because on 50mpw, I had a few days a few where I doubled and hit 15-16 miles. Your body has absolutely no clue on weekly mileage. It just remembers day to day, and what you want to do is add one day a week where you run a double of 12-15 miles, then slowly add more and more of those in during the week until you hit those numbers everyday.
Why should your body have a clue on daily mileage but not an weekly mileage? This is an absurd way of thinking. If you really believe this you can jump run these 15-16 miles every day.
Nevertheless, I am curious what this mileage jump will bring. Good luck, stay healthy![/quote]
You're body doesnt run on a 7 day cycle. 7 days is arbitrary and meaningless. It knows stress and what you stress it to on a given day.
Keep the posts coming, this is really great stuff, it's the diamond in the commode of LRC. I wish you a lot of success and enjoyment
Just curious, what are some of your PRs?
relative wrote:
Just curious, what are some of your PRs?
My PRs are 5:30 mile, 17:50 5k, and 1:25 half marathon. Those are not recent by any means. I'm sure I can blow them out of the water now.
UPDATE: Did an 80 mile week and only got a little tight after my 13 mile "long run" yesterday. I am not sure if I should keep up 80 from jumping from a 55 last week. I've been running and feeling great and really would hate to get a stress fracture or some type of injury from stupidness.
I was thinking of backing down to a modest 60-65 miles this week, then 70 the following and following, then a 90-maybe 100 mile week for my first week of Christmas break. Thoughts?
I went from 60 MPW to 100 MPW instantly.
After 1 year at 100mpw:
PRs went from 32:30 to 30:40 10k XC. 26:00 8k to 24:40 8k.
Good luck.
100Bound wrote:Is it smart to still do like 20 minute tempo runs during the time of building up my mileage to 100 or should everything be easy 8:00/mi easy runs? Cause I still want to keep some leg turnover and have been including 1 20 minute tempo run during the week, but else than that it is all easy 7:30/mi to 8:30/mi pace runs
Why in the hell are you running 100 miles at 8 minute pace? That's just stupid. Be able to handle 70 at all sub 7 pace (save some very easy runs once a week), but come on, 8 min pace won't do sh!t.
Crarare wrote:
100Bound wrote:Is it smart to still do like 20 minute tempo runs during the time of building up my mileage to 100 or should everything be easy 8:00/mi easy runs? Cause I still want to keep some leg turnover and have been including 1 20 minute tempo run during the week, but else than that it is all easy 7:30/mi to 8:30/mi pace runsWhy in the hell are you running 100 miles at 8 minute pace? That's just stupid. Be able to handle 70 at all sub 7 pace (save some very easy runs once a week), but come on, 8 min pace won't do sh!t.
Recipe for injury
It is stupid to push yourself on easy runs.
100Bound wrote:
my advice wrote:[qoute]
How am I able to run this many miles without injury? Because on 50mpw, I had a few days a few where I doubled and hit 15-16 miles. Your body has absolutely no clue on weekly mileage. It just remembers day to day, and what you want to do is add one day a week where you run a double of 12-15 miles, then slowly add more and more of those in during the week until you hit those numbers everyday.
Why should your body have a clue on daily mileage but not an weekly mileage? This is an absurd way of thinking. If you really believe this you can jump run these 15-16 miles every day.
Nevertheless, I am curious what this mileage jump will bring. Good luck, stay healthy!
You're body doesnt run on a 7 day cycle. 7 days is arbitrary and meaningless. It knows stress and what you stress it to on a given day.[/quote]
You don't know what you are talking about.
justsomeoldcoach wrote:
100Bound wrote:Why should your body have a clue on daily mileage but not an weekly mileage? This is an absurd way of thinking. If you really believe this you can jump run these 15-16 miles every day.
Nevertheless, I am curious what this mileage jump will bring. Good luck, stay healthy!
You're body doesnt run on a 7 day cycle. 7 days is arbitrary and meaningless. It knows stress and what you stress it to on a given day.
You don't know what you are talking about.[/quote]
Please tell me how the body is wired for a 7 day cycle before it magically "resets".
So, what's all the news? How's this going?
updateplz wrote:
So, what's all the news? How's this going?
I am stagnant right now at 75-80 miles per week. I am waiting until next week or the week after to bump to 85+ just because right now I am experiencing some soreness in my ankles and toes (strange enough in the joint of my toes, do you know why? too much weight landing on my forefront ?) so all of my mileage has been easy this week so far.
100 is going to be harder than I thought! But we'll see what happens
do a 5k this weekend so we can see how much the mileage has helped you so far
agc5k wrote:
do a 5k this weekend so we can see how much the mileage has helped you so far
Ok, but I don't know if I should keep running through this weird pain on my left foot's toes. It's like the joint of all of my toes on that foot hurt to put pressure on. What's the cause of that? Has to be my foot landing with too much pressure on my forefoot?
How old are your shoes? I get that when the cushioning starts to wear out.