uva, duke, notre dame, northwestern for pre-med, less so for physics.
for physics, probably stanford, michigan, berkeley, Illinois,
uva, duke, notre dame, northwestern for pre-med, less so for physics.
for physics, probably stanford, michigan, berkeley, Illinois,
What part of the country are you from? (BTW, I don't think you should necessarily look at track first and school second...) In any case, if you're out west, the California university system has some pretty good physics programs, starting with Berkeley, but working down through UCSB, UCSD, etc. On the east coast, maybe Maryland. Midwest, the b1g schools are good: Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan. In the South, UF or Texas.
I'm currently in missouri but have lived in Mississippi. I view my education first but want track to narrow down my choices
Unless I missed it, the top three physics programs in the country are not mentioned here: CalTech, Harvey Mudd and MIT. Mudd is a pretty good (CMS combine) DIII school, while MIT is surprisingly good at times within their world.
Other California (UC) schools are very good: Berkeley (i.e., Cal), UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Santa Barbara (mentioned), Pomona is very good, and while physics is not its best area, you can take classes at the other Claremont campuses, including Harvey Mudd, and Pomona is quite good at pre-med.
Of course, the likes of MIT/CalTech/Harvey Mudd, plus Pomona, Cal, UCLA, etc. are pretty hard to get in to.
Some other schools not mentioned enough are Washington University (Saint Louis, although U.Wash is pretty good in physics and medicine), Carnegie Mellon, Vanderbilt, UNC/Duke.
Also, pay no attention to the idiot who is forever writing the idiocy that at the undergraduate level it does not really matter because, say, calculus is the same everywhere (like a lot of kids starting at MIT/CalTech/Harvey Mudd are even taking college calculus, that is way in the review mirror for many if not most physics students at those schools; at my daughter's high school at least half a dozen kids in her class has already taken AP Calc by sophomore year and her school was half the size of mine).
26mi235 wrote:
Unless I missed it, the top three physics programs in the country are not mentioned here: CalTech, Harvey Mudd and MIT. Mudd is a pretty good (CMS combine) DIII school, while MIT is surprisingly good at times within their world. .
All three of those are division 3. The title explicitly asks for D1
Georgia Tech should be added to the list.
He mentioned good running. Vanderbilt and a lot of the other schools you mentioned have pretty bad men's programs. You can get good academics and a strong program at schools like Duke, Rice, Michigan, UVA, UCLA, Berkeley, etc
UMKC's medical school is similar to the model found in most of the world, it is a six year program that starts out of high school.
UCSF is #1 in the world for medicine.
Cal is #1 in the world for (public) Physics.