Does anyone else not care about Ferguson?

amxzz wrote:

I used to get worked up over events like this, but as I got older I came to a conclusion. It's about class, more than race and it will never change.

The lower class will always fight against the police and play the victim. The police can never trust them, because they fight against them and always play the victim.

Will never change. And the politicians and media love it, and will always play it up to pander to them.

And the majority of the country will go on with their lives, because they are on to the charade too.

Yep.

McCullough should recuse himself.

He is not fit to be prosecutor since he is biased.

before I decide whether or not to care, what is going on in Ferguson?

this is so wrong, so you are saying if lets say you are at disneyland and there has been some big race in the los angeles area the day before and you see haille gebresellasie, meseret defat, worknesh, kidane, all 3 dibaba sisters, sally kipyego, eliud kipchoge, bezunesh bekele,aheza kiros and others laughing and smiling as their race is over and they can enjoy games and rides, you would be scared because they are black. that is so wrong, if you meet them they are all great people, i have met meseret defar, ejegayehu dibaba, worknesh kidane, bezunesh bekele and aheza kiros and at no point did i feel threatened or in danger, i would be happy for them to be my neighbors, they are wonderful people.

Funny string of comments on CNN article:

Open Range

52 minutes ago

@Daniela Vognar @Open Range @Rowdy Yates

Sadly, class falls heavily along racial lines. So, it becomes hard to separate them, but yes.

I think, however, that the demographics of police departments also affect how people experience law enforcement and poor whites are more likely to see a white officer than poor blacks are to see a black officer.

NoOneLeftForMe

2 minutes ago

@Open Range @Rowdy Yates

Completely agree, but how do we also combat the violent crime issues found within those communities

MEH113

51 minutes ago

@NoOneLeftForMe @Open Range @Rowdy Yates

Shoot them?

NoOneLeftForMe

NoOneLeftForMe

47 minutes ago

@MEH113 @NoOneLeftForMe @Open Range @Rowdy Yates

Wisebutt

Geb, Defar, Dibaba, etc. are all Africans, not African Americans. Therein lies the difference. Apples to oranges.

tfxz wrote:

Bingo wrote:

Zohan, you're in the wrong century mate, maybe you should build yourself a time machine so that you can go and join King Leopold the 2nd's men in the Congo, I'm sure your disgusting attitude of arrogance, hate and patronising superiority will help you fit in. Set the timer to year 1890 and don't come back. Thanks.

Wow, impressive retort......but you didn't respond to his thought.

Here, I'll make it even simpler for you:

Name one area that has turned majority low income black, and property values have held or risen.

No other embellishment needed, just name one.

I'm genuinely interested in the responses to this question. I can't find a legitimate answer. Even across the globe, e.g. Africa, there is no obvious response. Something is amiss. No ad hominems!

Atlanta /thread

"one area that has turned majority low income black, and property values have held or risen"

Question - what was the race / class makeup of the neighborhood before it turned majority LOW INCOME black?

By definition, property values fall when a middle class white (or any other racial group's) neighborhoods turn low income black, latin, or white. In the US, the historic pattern has been to exclude black people (through violence, redlining, denial of loans, etc) from white neighborhoods, but if one did get through, it usually lead to a "there goes the neighborhood" mass exodus of scared white people. Self fulfilling prophecy.

Here, I'll make it even simpler for you:

Name one area that has turned majority low income black, and property values have held or risen.

No other embellishment needed, just name one.[/quote]

I'm genuinely interested in the responses to this question. I can't find a legitimate answer. Even across the globe, e.g. Africa, there is no obvious response. Something is amiss. No ad hominems![/quote]

I maintain that the main racial problem in the US is lack of integration. We are too protective of our personal space and like to tag every issue as an external one. We are all the problem. If you're black and you think no one cares about you and therefore you can go out there and act like a thug it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you're white and think all is good as long as "they stay on their side" then you are ignorant and sadly mistaken. The reality is we all live under the same roof and as a country and community can't improve if we all behave like individuals that don't affect each other.

Many minority groups can now receive fair treatment on paper, but that is very different than acceptance. How many of you know your neighbors by first name, what they do for a living and who their kids are? Do you not care? Think about it, the more you invest your time in someone the more trust and influence you build and the more you are able to offer help and get help from them when needed. When people really feel they are part of a community (and I don't mean that they just feel they are allowed to sit in the front on a bus) they will be less likely to commit crimes and damage property and more likely to care more and be productive and find solutions to problems.

Sorry America, but having produced your so called equal rights on paper is far from good enough. You have to really accept members of society as your equals and keep in mind they are part of the same country whether you like it or not. Stop complaining about blacks and whites and cops... Do a little more integrating and get to know each other, you'll be less likely to be racist and kill each other. Stop complaining about other's lack of patriotism and assimilation and do something to help improve that. Why should you care? The issues will eventually spill over into every city. You will pay more taxes, continue to see more divisions within your communities and in general will be less happy. It's a real tragedy if you don't care and I wish you good luck with your miserable existence.

Detroit. Ever heard of it? /thread

I care about what happens in Ferguson but only because I don't want to see the GDMN government coming after ME with all that weaponry. The cop/black guy thing? Not too much but if the cop did something wrong then I'd hope they prosecute him and justice is done. Not sure he did anything wrong though and I'm willing to let the legal system do it's thing. Good enough for me, hell we got AG Holder on the case.

Sorry but No, I don't really care. I worked as a police officer in Jackson MS for 10 years. I worked black areas, so I got a pretty good feel/idea as to how they act/live/work with others.Some blacks are decent, hard working. Some are so-so. But the majority were lazy-ass thugs who would steal from the working blacks when they were gone to work. But the so-so blacks would not tell us anything or help us solve any crimes. But when the police had to fight or shoot a black, ALL the blacks would rally around the subject who had been shot. Even the black cops would comment on this. The blacks would move into a middle class area and within 5-8 years it would look like Beirut.

Why do they burn/destroy the area in which they live when they feel like they have been done wrong ?

Im sorry, but I don't believe they will ever be a day when blacks/whites live together in peace. We are from 2 different cultures. Truth be known, most blacks want to be around blacks. Liberals just want everyone to believe in this Utopia fanatasy.

Sorry but No, I don't really care. I worked as a police officer in Jackson MS for 10 years. I worked black areas, so I got a pretty good feel/idea as to how they act/live/work with others.Some blacks are decent, hard working. Some are so-so. But the majority were lazy-ass thugs who would steal from the working blacks when they were gone to work. But the so-so blacks would not tell us anything or help us solve any crimes. But when the police had to fight or shoot a black, ALL the blacks would rally around the subject who had been shot. Even the black cops would comment on this. The blacks would move into a middle class area and within 5-8 years it would look like Beirut.

Why do they burn/destroy the area in which they live when they feel like they have been done wrong ?

Im sorry, but I don't believe they will ever be a day when blacks/whites live together in peace. We are from 2 different cultures. Truth be known, most blacks want to be around blacks. Liberals just want everyone to believe in this Utopia fanatasy.

Do you look out your windows and see fairies and unicorns?

So what's your answer? Segregation? What's will you and others do when the situation is such that these thugs have infiltrated every town and there's no where left to go?

What are you doing to make the world a better place?

More and more all over the country! Give it time! We will own all! Cowards need to be biatch slapped anyway. Vote for Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Matter of time.

Interesting - the newspaper I read here in Britain recently diverted a reporter from going to Iraq - to Ferguson!

This is his first report which rather left me wondering as to the colour of the burger owners - I assume they are black?

‘A new shopping mall had just opened down the road’

I doubt that will reopen.

“It seemed the obvious idea to a businessman and his MBA wife. Open a business together, one close to home, where they could spend time working in each other’s company.

They found it. A burger bar that was struggling to stay afloat but one with potential to grow fast.

They took ownership on 12 days ago. Michael Brown, an unarmed teenager, was shot dead by a police officer the very next day just round the corner from The Ferguson Burger Bar and More.

Not an auspicious opening.

“I knew him from a baby. He was big even then,” said Kizzie Davis. “His mother came here on the third day.

She knew we were opening and wanted to show her support but she didn’t eat very much.”

It is the only time the grin fades from the face of Mrs Davis, as she juggles telephones and change, calling orders to the busy kitchen and clearing tables.

Business slumped for those first traumatic days.

The road outside – West Florissant Street – was shut down by police as demonstrations turned violent and teargas filled the air.

She and her husband, who runs a real estate business and a car lot, wondered whether their $35,000 was about to go up in smoke – literally.

“Business went right down so we wondered whether we had done the right thing. It was a lot of our savings,” she said, before breaking off to take an order.

“Do you want cheese on your fries? Sauce on your wings?”

I make a mental note to have my wings sauced next time I’m in.

Now the restaurant, kitted out with simple tables and colourful blackboards is booming. It has stayed open while other businesses have shut. Some are boarded up and blackened.

A BBQ joint was set alight the night before.

The Ferguson Burger Bar has become an unofficial media centre.

The tables fill each evening with journalists filing or recharging phones.

A TV tuned to CNN shows Anderson Cooper broadcasting yards across the road, as police close in with armoured cars.

Protesters drop in for a bag of “chicken wingettes” before returning to the fray.

Orders backed up badly the night before.

I waited an hour and ten minutes for my Double Ranch Burger, anxiously keeping an eye out of the window in case I missed the story.

It arrived just in time. The outside of the burger was perfectly textured – grilled until it was crisp and just chewy enough.

The sharpness of the blue cheese was offset by smoky bacon and a dollop of barbecue sauce.

A slice of lettuce did what it was supposed to do and made me feel better about myself.

There was a flurry beyond the window as I finished.

Journalists dashed out, while protesters rushed in.

Mrs Davis’s husband Charles dropped his friendly patter (“Please be patient, this is all made to order – the food will tapdance on your tastebuds”) and went for the entrance. “I don’t want people running in here,” he shouted, locking the door.

Tear gas and blood followed.

Running battles were fought yards from the glass frontage.

Mr and Mrs Davis were up at 5am the next day to restock.

Their secret has been to overhaul the menu and cut prices.

The burgers are made in-house, said Mrs Davis, little more than beef and seasoning.

“Most of the people coming here are local,” she said. “Even after all this finishes we think they’ll keep coming back.”

She grew up in the neighbourhood and paints a different picture to the down-at-heel image portrayed in much of the reporting.

Unemployment has eased recently and businesses have moved to the area.

A new shopping mall opened up the road.

Mrs Davis has her own plans. She’s setting up a home-help business, offering cleaning, cooking and the like. In line with their other businesses it will be in Ferguson, employing locals.

“We just can’t believe this is happening here. We put on the television and it looks like somewhere else. This doesn’t happen here,” she said.

That’s where her husband was while we chatted – on television.

“He’s off all day doing interviews while I’m working here,” she said, a broad smile filling her face. “He’s done all the shows.”