Did anyone have a good high school xc/track coach? If so, are you still in contact with them? How many had an awful coach who knew nothing about the sport? I\'d guess the majority of people out there.
Did anyone have a good high school xc/track coach? If so, are you still in contact with them? How many had an awful coach who knew nothing about the sport? I\'d guess the majority of people out there.
Sr. G-rod is the best coach ever to live.
my highschool coach seemed alright at the time. Had his runners maybe do one week around 80 max (best guys) senior year before cross, otherwise we were around 50. Strongly discouraged me from running higher "marathon" mileage post high school and feared I would burn out. Haven't talked with him in 6 months, the mileage has gotte nme far better than I ever was running for him. To his credit he was a good guy.
coach profle:
5'8"
300 lbs.
Lifetime miles: 0
Had pinky toes removed cause his weight was crushing them.
Overall, he was a great guy and I had a ton of fun, but he didn't know anything about running.
my coach was awsome in highschool. he used the best program EVER. PAAVO BABY.
Although it was not the best situation (having 6 different coaches during my h.s. XC and TF career), as I look back now, it was definitely for the best. Each one of them (Jim Wiswell, Mike Nicoletti, Gary Hinman, Steve Levesque, Mike Khouri, & Tony Veney) brought something different in their coaching philosophy that I value to this day (as a runner and now as a coach). I still talk to two of them fairly regularly.
I actually had a different coach for each season. My xc coach was the only actual distance runner among them. I credit him for getting me to love running. He did not however train us very hard. We never ran farther than 5 miles. Even as a dumb high school kid I knew there was something wrong with that. Pretty much everything was at threshold pace. Indoor was a football coach who had absolutly no idea about running. Fortunetly he let me basically train myself, and I did ok doing that. Outdoor it was a sprint coach. He was great for sprinters, but basically coached distance runners like long sprinters. Lots of speed work, little mileage. All things considered Im not going to complain too much. I definitly developed my speed during high school. Plus, because I didn't feel I was coached that well in high school, it inspired me to learn as much as I could about running. Eventually I ended up being coached by Jack at Cortland, so everything worked out.
one of the best coaches I've ever met in my life -- I've never met a better one
Had a smart, saavy coach. Wish I would have listened to him instead of trying to be Gerry Lindgren in high school. He turned out a few 4:14 milers and a 9:07 two-miler, so he obviously knew what he was doing.
Yes, but he does not run anymore owing to serious leg issues.
He was something of a bully, like to grab kids (smaller 7th-8th graders) by the back of the neck and make them pick up scraps of paper in the hallway floor. Reportedly cut one kid with this big ring he wore. This was the 60's.
He said that if you could not run 6:30 pace in training you could not expect to make varsity. Also he called his program "maximum effort, maximum rest". Rest? What rest?
I recall one day: 4 miles in under 7-minute pace, then 10x110 yard sprints on the football field. That was for the sprinters. The following spring a tough day was 5x
1 mile in <7-minutes then 10x110's...ex.
mile, 10x110
mile, 10x100, etc(5x)
Some years later we crossed paths at a 10K, he was a teasing me beforehand, but I whupped his a*s by over a minute and went thru one water station telling them
"Save the water for the old guy behind me and tell him I said that".
He treated me with a LOT more respect after that.
Mine was very good. Plenty of sound advice. He encouraged me to put in some miles during the summer and long runs on the weekend. He didn't run us too hard, so that we were fresh physically and mentally. He never said anything negative ... although he might not say anything if you ran like shit or less than your potential, then when you ran well, you knew about it.
I've had 5 different coaches for XC/track. My first coach for track/XC was a great lady who thought highly of me, but now I realize that her training plan wasn't the best. I don't think we ever ran more than 5 miles, but we did lots and lots of speedwork. My 11th grade XC coach was a tocuhy-feely fat man who would bring us to a forest, tell us to go run and we'd run between 3-5 miles and leave. 11th grade track coach was a sprinter who did not know a thing about long distance runners (and I only ran the 800m that season!). Nice guy though. In 12th grade I had the coach from hell-- all the other girls on the team were slow, but she got angry when I started to run with some of the guys. She wanted me to win every race but train with the slow girls. She was so PC it made me sick and was constantly pointing out anything she could that she saw as bad about me (clothing/leading by example was bad for her/angry at me for not acting as the girls coach/told me I couldn't tell the other girls to go faster, instead, I should go slower..). She gave out the female MVP to a girl who "showed that she gave it her all when she passed out at a race..." As you can tell, I had a tough time with her. I found out she was running track that year and decided to play softball. Needless to say, she was fired last year and now the team has 3 runners under 20:00. Oh well.
A couple classics. My sophomore year in HS was our first year ever for XC. The other team took 1-2 and then we had a bunch come in. I'm on the bus home and ask the coach to see the results. The score is 28 for us and 29 for them and I ask the coach why he didn't tell us we won? I told him low score wins and he says, "Oh, I thought it was like football."
Also, being the Vo-Ag teacher he was always trying to give us sugar cubes. I told it would do more harm than good, it's simple science. He informed me it "worked for horses."
Needless to say it was a great 3 years, we went 5 - 22 in duals.
who here had HS coaches that trained the team 50wks/yr? they seem to be rare breed.
I had an aswome coach, and he still coaches and advises me now. He turned me into a sub 14min 5k runner in the few years I have worked with him. He knows his stuff and his tactics may be a little different to what most would envisage.
I had a great coach in high school, which I appreciate even more now that I see how downhill my old high school program has gone in the few years since I graduated and they've had a new coach running the program there. As a matter of fact, I actually think I would be running better right now if I were still coached by him rather than my current coach who, although he's a nice guy, seems to have the philosophy that just putting together a workout schedule and timing intervals constitutes coaching. I think that individual attention that my high school coach tried to give to everyone made a huge difference in keeping me healthy and consistently improving throughout my career.
I was amazingly fortunate to have had two wonderful hs coaches! I am happy to see that many have had the same or atleast close to it!:)
My high school coach ranks highly among the best people I've ever known.
I ran 40 - 50 consistently and peaked at 70.5 ;-) I was just looking at my Jim Fixx Training Log from 1984 today. ;-) Throw those on-line, computer based logs in the recycle bin ... pen and paper is the way to go. ;-) I trained with one of my team mates on the weekend and during the summer. We were the only ones who actually did anyting resembling mileage or a long run.
trackhead wrote:
who here had HS coaches that trained the team 50wks/yr? they seem to be rare breed.
Hey I'm surprised and glad you lived to tell about it.No wonder there is so much violence in schools these days.Does your urine still smell like sulfur,young lady.
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