2014 Lausanne Preview: Centro skipped USAs for this one - how low can he go?

Why are these guys incapable of racing two weekends in a row? Especially if one of the meets is THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. This is assuming that he purposefully skipped it for this race like you said.

Remind poor old Steve Soprano to pick his fantasy league team, letsrun.com. He's already missed two meets.

No one has an obligation to run any meet just to please the Brojos.

The Brojo hit job on Centro is ridiculous.

J.R. wrote:

No one has an obligation to run any meet just to please the Brojos.

The Brojo hit job on Centro is ridiculous.

Indeed. Their "do it for the good of the sport" rhetoric sure smacks of socialism for a couple of guys with their conservative bona fides.

He is an idiot for missing the National Champs. He likely would have placed there, assuming he and Sal timed his sauce cycle properly. Now he can get murdered in a DL race instead. Smart guy.

He didn't want to go race in the blast furnace of Sacramento. Wise young man.

In a non-championship year the DL is both a bigger meet and pays more

What is wrong with him choosing to compete there?

3:33 at best. The guy is a great racer, just not that fast on the international level. I don't see him breaking his PR in early July.

"Assuming"? Are you for real? Obviously he missed USA's on purpose. Remember Andrew Wheating? Yeah. Sure, it would have been great to see him at USA's competing with Leo and Leer, but in a Summer without World's, why not run fast times instead? And also, while these guys are capable of running back to back weekends, a hard effort in 90 degree heat doesn't exactly equate to a quick recovery.

osol wrote:

Why are these guys incapable of racing two weekends in a row? Especially if one of the meets is THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. This is assuming that he purposefully skipped it for this race like you said.

[quote]Tommy Salami wrote:

"Assuming"? Are you for real? Obviously he missed USA's on purpose. Remember Andrew Wheating? Yeah. Sure, it would have been great to see him at USA's competing with Leo and Leer, but in a Summer without World's, why not run fast times instead? And also, while these guys are capable of running back to back weekends, a hard effort in 90 degree heat doesn't exactly equate to a quick recovery.

That's the problem. "Instead". The 1500m is not long enough to be affected by heat. Especially since it's usually a slow race (not a hard effort). The way these guys race is lame. It's like they all caught the Ritz or the Hall.

Tommy Salami wrote:

"Assuming"? Are you for real? Obviously he missed USA's on purpose. Remember Andrew Wheating? Yeah. Sure, it would have been great to see him at USA's competing with Leo and Leer, but in a Summer without World's, why not run fast times instead? And also, while these guys are capable of running back to back weekends, a hard effort in 90 degree heat doesn't exactly equate to a quick recovery.

osol wrote:

Why are these guys incapable of racing two weekends in a row? Especially if one of the meets is THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. This is assuming that he purposefully skipped it for this race like you said.

I gotta call BS a little bit cuz we're talking about the 1500. A 1500 in 90 degrees and you'll be just fine the very next day. It's not like they're 10k runners.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Our preview of tomorrow's meet is now up on the HP:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2014/07/lausanne-dl-preview/

Centro skipped USAs for this race. How low will he go?

Do you think he'll PR? He's been in good form so far this year.

Geezus, as always guys, GROW UP.

He skipped USA's to get to Europe, get through jetlag, get acclimated and focus on his goal of becoming a consistent 1500m guy in it to win it in every race.

That's his seasons goal.

You can take the above to the bank, it came from his own mouth and his family.

Did Lauren Raceler go over with him?

I wish they'd just scrap USA national's altogether in non-championship years and everyone just focus on times. Fast times are fun, I guarantee this board and track fans in general would go way crazier if Centro would go sub 3:30 tomorrow as opposed to winning a sit and kick USA's in 3:37.

osol wrote:

Why are these guys incapable of racing two weekends in a row? Especially if one of the meets is THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. This is assuming that he purposefully skipped it for this race like you said.

Didn't he say in an interview that his goal this year is to run fast? That was not going to happen in Sacto.

He's already won two national championships and has plenty of time to win more. OTOH, there are only a few 1500 races a year with the potential for really fast times and Lausanne is one of them. He has a lot more to gain by breaking the AR or running sub 3:30 than by winning a 3rd U.S. title - and really it would bring more attention to the sport in the U.S.

Those who say there is plenty of time to recover may have never traveled to Europe from the West Coast. There is an 8 or 9 hour time difference. One night of little or no sleep on the plane and then 3-4 days to fully adjust.

I think he made the right decision. If he wants to continue to improve he needs to be racing Kiplagat and Wote when he's at his best, not Leer and Casey.

Of course if he doesn't perform he will be crucified here, but I'm sure he can handle it.

I don't get it brojos: you harp on USATF for their terrible management and shitshow enforcement of flawed rules; you trash US champs as a low calibre meet; and yet you expect centro to show up there and pass up running in the big leagues before a real crowd. He made the right decision. No two ways about it. He's helping the sport by mixing it up with the big boys in Europe. He wouldn't be helping the sport by throwing USATF a bone with an appearance at US Champs. Until USATF gets its act together quality athletes shouldn't do USATF any favors. Most athletes don't have the leverage to pull off this kind of move, but centro does, so more power to him for stiffing the circus that is USATF.

Doug Heffernan wrote:

I wish they'd just scrap USA national's altogether in non-championship years and everyone just focus on times. Fast times are fun, I guarantee this board and track fans in general would go way crazier if Centro would go sub 3:30 tomorrow as opposed to winning a sit and kick USA's in 3:37.

I'd go nuts if he went sub-3:30. Lagat is the only American to do so, right?

A Duck wrote:

He skipped USA's to get to Europe, get through jetlag

1. There is no apostrophe in a plural.

2. How long does weak sauce take to get over jetlag? His Kenyan competition travels 12-24 hours for most European or US meets and will kick Centro down after sleeping on the airport floor if they have to. Is a week in the meet hotel not Centro-certified? He needs two?

"Sydney Maree's greatest success came in August 1983 when he broke Steve Ovett's world record over 1500 m at a meeting in Cologne. Maree clocked 3:31.24 min. Two years later, Maree broke the 3:30 min-barrier when he set a new US record of 3:29.77 min. However, this was not a world record as a few weeks before Steve Cram and Saïd Aouita had already run 3:29.67 and 3:29.71 min respectively. Maree was an excellent 5000 m runner, as well. In Oslo in 1985 he set a new US record at 13:01.15 min. finishing just behind Aouita who set a world record."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Maree