clide bundy makes comment on black people

NBC is unbiased is it? wrote:

NBC ABC CBS Washington Post NY TIMES didn't make it news 6 years ago, THATS THE POINT. The double standards.

Obama only distanced himself from Wright when it became politically convenient to do so.

What about Al Sharpton? Has he distanced himself from the biggest racist on the planet?

What about Jay Z.? He and Obama are real tight? Have you ever paid attention to Jay Z's lyrics?

HYPOCRITE MUCH?

I don't really agree with everything you write, but as a fan of JAY-Z, I have to say that I found it hilarious when Gwyneth Paltrow was all over the news for tweeting the name of one of his songs in a friendly and supportive way. Especially considering that she is/was friends with him. She is terrible, so it was funny, but the double standard there is beyond incredible.

I get the whole "I can say it but you cannot" thing when it comes to the n word, but most of his and other very popular rap artists' work would be considered Storm Front-esque if it were reversed and coming from a white guy.

It is interesting to see who the media - and the public at large, really - decides to condemn and bully.

What the f*ck are you talking about? Wright was huge news. Al Sharpton may or may not be racist, but he certainly isn't the biggest racist on the planet. Jay Z's lyrics are mostly bragging about being rich these days.

And once again, all of this has zilch to do with the subject. Quit trying to change the topic.

Yes! Keep it up! Deflect! Deflect!

Clive Bundy is a hard working American. That really p*sses off the liberals who hate white men. It is that simple.

So let's get this straight: you'd rather be a slave who knew his father than a free man who didn't?

quite frankly YES. I see black kids without fathers all the time around here. Same story by 12 they are getting into serious trouble, by 17 they are total thugs with zero skills other than robbing and raping. meanwhile did you see many blacks going BACK TO AFRICA even after they were 'freed'. NOPE. Things here as a slave was 100 times better than back in Africa were the slavemasters treated them like cattle. Funny how whites FREED the slaves are made to feel like they are the only ones who have ever enslaved anyone. Africans were enslaved by their own and other cultures for centuries before white ever owned any slaves in America.

Ho Hum wrote:

So let's get this straight: you'd rather be a slave who knew his father than a free man who didn't?

FWIW, I've never been made to feel like I'm the only one to have enslaved anyone.

Better off a slave knowing your dad than free and not. Wow. Letsrun delivers today. I'm struggling to understand what slaves, who had been in America for generations, not going to Africa after being emancipated proves. Yeah, just hop on a plane and return to a continent where they no longer had any connection. Easy, right? New dumbest "point" I've ever seen here.

If the coddlers would only face facts....what WILL it TAKE? Abraham Lincoln's desire to keep the races separate is never talked about as part of his legacy. They call him the Great Emancipator but they don't refer to the fact that Lincoln, like Thomas Jefferson and Henry Clay, believed that blacks should leave the USA for a colony in Africa (Liberia) or Central America. The prevailing theory amongst these men was that the black species was so different from that of whites, that separation would serve everyone well. These two races simply would not get along well....and they were RIGHT! So Bundy's wisdom reflects the wisdom of Jefferson and Clay, and many others from their period.

Bundy was right on the money!

Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas ...

“and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children,

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/nyc-more-black-babies-killed-abortion-born

they put their young men in jail,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/04/racial-disparities-criminal-justice_n_4045144.html

because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

check out those links, he is 100% correct.

I am a very Liberal and Democratic person and even I can understand what this man is trying to express. He's not suggesting that black people SHOULD be slaves, he's saying that he wonders if they're still NOT slaves. That being said, that they are dependant of the government for their livelyhood. Black americans are still, on a whole, not very productive members of society. They are uneducated (because they don't value school), they don't work (because a lot's easier to do nothing and sell drugs for profit) and they have too many mouths to feed, which falls on the government to support. Is he wrong? He's not. It has nothing to do with being racist. You can point out generalizations about a certain culture or group without it being racist. Being a racist means that you HATE a particular ethnicity. You could not-like certain traits but that doesn's mean you wish them harm.

There is nothing that this man said that is concidered offensive, IMO. Media and Politicians are just using this to twist it for their own agenda.

lpd wrote:

Calling Bundy a white man racist is like calling a black man a criminal.

Nature of the beast.

Fixed.

1pd wrote:

[quote]lpd wrote:

Calling Bundy a white man racist is like calling a black man a racist.

Nature of the beast.

FIXED.

First of all, you are no liberal or democrat. Who are you trying to fool. Second, you don't think is racist generalizing an entire group based on race? really? you're parents must have dropped you on your head several times as a baby. There are thousands of blacks who don't fit the description of this RACIST yet he generalizes and talks about blacks as being the same. Obama, Colin Powell, Condoleza Rice, Martin Luther King, Oprah, Michael Jordan and thousands of other blacks have just been labeled not well educated, not productive members of society and people who don't work...just because of their skin color...and you don't consider this racist? You are no different than this fool. Keep pretending this character is not really a racist if it makes you feel better, but don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. I wasn't born yesterday.

Ronald Reagan maximized his popularity by making the exact same generalizations in speeches Bundy did.

Bundy is inarticulate and uneducated but he is just questioning where is the progress that liberal policies should have accomplished when he still see's blacks in this country no better off than they were 100 years ago.

Its the same old blaming your problems on the state dealing with an underclass.

The nation and the American economy was at its best when middle class jobs were available for the majority of anyone willing to work hard and contribute. White trash hillbillies from Kentucky and black people from the south built the greatest world economy for a single nation the world has ever seen working for Ford, GM, Chrysler, US Steel.

Nothing like that exists anymore.

We still have the greatest country in the world where anybody has at least a chance to improve their quality of life. China is still a third world country for the majority of their citizens.

Maybe if the Government quit supporting social and education programs and we all went back to the 19th century where winner takes all that would be a better and stronger nation.

Something tells me if he was 21 years old today he would be delivering pizza or maybe managing a store at the mall making 12 bucks an hour. And probably still blaming the unemployed blacks for all his problems.

Lol bundy apologists

the spin machine wrote:

Sooo, the guy makes some comments, the media spins it, many of you buy it.

Tell me again where "racist" comments justifies the BLM killing his cattle and throwing the corpse' into pits?

If I'm a bank and you don't pay the mortgage, I throw you out of "your" home, which is really my home because I paid your opportunity costs/start up costs so that you could live there.

What Bundy doesn't realize is that "his" land wasn't really his land. It wasn't his daddy's or his daddy's daddy's. There was a whole other race of people living on that land before him. The federal government, wanting to get white folks onto that land, paid the opportunity costs of forcibly removing the natives who had previously lived there. After removing the pesky natives, the government practically gave the land away to anyone willing to come out west and make a go of it.

Consider the grazing fee interest on the federal government's down payment way back when.

Don't get me wrong, ranching and farming aren't easy. But, anyone who says that they don't need no guvment interference on "their" land needs to read up on some history. Anyone who willfully doesn't pay what he rightfully owes in use fees is simply a freeloader.

I go to school 180 days a year. You have an easier life than high schoolers

You may be right but it is probably because the typical liberal may have had enough sense to figure that Jeremiah Wright was bad news. On the other hand, republicans take a while longer to identify toxic scenarios. This dude could have referred to 'all people on welfare that do nothing all day' but he felt it was important that they were negroes or black. Quite unfortunate.