WSJ- Salazar says Schumacher is 'mortal enemy.'"

bam bam wrote:

Al Sal just seems childish. He wanted that Solinsky race to be a coronation for Rupp. I'm glad he went home that night devastated.

I am glad it made Rupp work harder, and ran an even better time next year. Had Rupp won that race in 26:59, he might have settled for that.

I agree with the above poster. No doubt these two groups feed off each others successes and motivate each other ( albeit in a very competitive way ).

I think people are looking way too much into this "mortal enemy" quote. Save the hate for something else, guys!

says it all wrote:

Last paragraph...

"In Friday's preliminary heats in Poland, four Salazar runners advanced to the finals. Schumacher's only runner at the event, Lomong, failed to advance in the 1,500 meters."

Agreed, it's probably very hard to advance if you're not using gray zone drugs

When Superman and Lex Luthor come together 10s of millions of people pay $9 to watch.

This would be marketing manna from heaven in any other field.

First let me say that I am not a Salazar fan. I am not a Rupp fan. Haven't been since he did the club coach thing in high school and continued the private coaching through college. Beyond the gimmicks it is that thing that irritates me the most. But that is inconsequential.

As for the comment as a coach I have told my kids that "I hate" our rivals. Usually in a forced deep angry voice with an exaggerated clinched fist. They beat us. My good friend who I go to the game with and hang out with regularly there coaches there. Fact is I am a bit jealous of their success and I really want to beat them as it is a good measure of how good we are. This year despite a bad performance from our #1 runner we lost by three points. I hate them! But I don't, my friend coaches there.

Now I would never put that in an email though. But I coach for real, not by internet. So there that is.

Sara Germano addressed the context question on twitter:

"Sara Germano ‏@germanotes 13h

@Nemtynakht hear your point. Can rest assured: email reviews here are careful and vetted for context. Brevity in print only due to space."

Seems like the context was as is assumed, hateful.

Richard Ashcroft wrote:

That's "posts," as in the plural form of "post." And no, I was referring to my previous POSTS, the ones containing a great many specifics about this ramshackle, despicable twat on two legs that goes by AlSal and slithers around at top-level track meets, leaving snail-trails and stray pubes and queefing angrily at anything in its path while making ugly sucking sounds and stinking like the dumpster outside a seafood fast-food joint on a sultry summer day. The actions of this gaping, pus-infested vestibule are almost as reprehensible as my gut-churning metaphor here, and so he should be roundly mocked, derided, legislated out of the annals of humanity by all but the most sick and depraved and unholy. But on the whole he's an okay guy.

Well said, Mr Ashcroft! I'm loving your posts.

Richard Ashcroft wrote:

That's "posts," as in the plural form of "post." And no, I was referring to my previous POSTS, the ones containing a great many specifics about this ramshackle, despicable twat on two legs that goes by AlSal and slithers around at top-level track meets, leaving snail-trails and stray pubes and queefing angrily at anything in its path while making ugly sucking sounds and stinking like the dumpster outside a seafood fast-food joint on a sultry summer day. The actions of this gaping, pus-infested vestibule are almost as reprehensible as my gut-churning metaphor here, and so he should be roundly mocked, derided, legislated out of the annals of humanity by all but the most sick and depraved and unholy. But on the whole he's an okay guy.

Is it possible that this post could have been any better?

Thank you Richard Ashcroft, you are a wonderful human!

Richard Ashcroft wrote:

That's "posts," as in the plural form of "post." And no, I was referring to my previous POSTS, the ones containing a great many specifics about this ramshackle, despicable twat on two legs that goes by AlSal and slithers around at top-level track meets, leaving snail-trails and stray pubes and queefing angrily at anything in its path while making ugly sucking sounds and stinking like the dumpster outside a seafood fast-food joint on a sultry summer day. The actions of this gaping, pus-infested vestibule are almost as reprehensible as my gut-churning metaphor here, and so he should be roundly mocked, derided, legislated out of the annals of humanity by all but the most sick and depraved and unholy. But on the whole he's an okay guy.

Nicely done.

I've never had much of a problem with Rupp. I can respect the fact that he's run at a high level for several years now, and helps give US distance running some relevance on the world scene.

But I can't to see one of Schumacher's athletes beating Rupp again, just so I get to watch Rupp and AlSal's reactions. Watching them throw temper tantrums is great entertainment.

To those who insist that it's possible that AlSal meant "mortal enemy" in the spirit of athletic competition: You know, in isolation, such a characterization of one coach by another might not imply any genuine ill will, and be strictly contained to a high-test sporting rivalry.

BUT...BUT...

When the same guy later has to be restrained from possibly taking a swat at his "mortal enemy," and even behaves toward said enemy's athletes in as methodically despicable, unfair and manipulative a manner as Salazar did in Albuquerque, it kind of dispenses of the notion of a passing pot-shot, doesn't it? There's the CONTEXT y'all are demanding, in HDTV on a 60" flat-screen and booming surround-sound.

Look, if I wrote in an e-mail or even on this board that I really wanted to jam a dick up wejo's butt, you'd demonstrate a reasonable reaction by assuming that I wasn't being literal. But if two years from now, I was spotted in a city park bending a wailing wejo bent over a bench with his pants at his ankles and furiously ramming a vibrator in and out of his stinkhole, it wouldn't be very reasonable to revisit that e-mail and say, "I think he just meant that as a figure of speech."

Similarly, AlSal has done nothing but treat Schumacher as if he really is his worst imaginable enemy, so regarding that e-mail as the lazy hot air of a spirited coach plainly makes no sense.

Coming next: OSU coach refers to Michigan football as mortal enemies. Country is shocked!

Who cares if they don't like each other. Or if harsh words were once exchanged. I just want the US runners to run fast and take on international runners.

If people want to get to Salazar, it's easy, get your runners to beat his runners consistently. Maybe Jäger and Derrick can do that soon. They are great runners and I would love to see that happen.

I think the protests at Nationals were fine but I would not have DQd. USATF messed up the appeals and should have said no to a re-review.

1. The "Feud" is good for our sport. Fans love rivalries. Hell, Nike probably fed that email to the right person to add a little fuel to the fire. We talk about making running a major sport and club competitions. What we really need are some heroes and villains. NOP=NY Yankees.

2. While the "mortal enemy" comment is good publicity, SALAZAR DEMONSTRATED AT US NATIONALS THAT HE WILL CHEAT TO WIN.

Salazar made himself and his athletes look very bad with his actions at USA indoors. But look how easy it is to dq athletes, half a dozen or more have been dq'd already at World's in the distances, one or two per race. Grunewald, as I said before, did run up into two different runners during the race. She did quite a bit more than most of these world's athletes.

it does say a lot wrote:

says it all wrote:

Last paragraph...

"In Friday's preliminary heats in Poland, four Salazar runners advanced to the finals. Schumacher's only runner at the event, Lomong, failed to advance in the 1,500 meters."

Agreed, it's probably very hard to advance if you're not using gray zone drugs

Although according to some threads a week or so ago, Schumacher's runners have also been using some thyroid meds.

just cause sleazy talks tough don't mean he is tough. I guarantee that if that cheating punkassbitch stepped up to me, he'd get a skull cracking

Thought Salazar was a dick.

Read 14 Minutes....confirmed.

;lkj wrote:

I feel badly for Ms. Germano. She works at a reputable newspaper like the WSJ and she's stuck with digging through Adam Goucher's emails. With all of the real news stories out there that have a global impact, she's using her Ivy league education for this?

The WSJ is no longer what it once was, as far as reputability goes.

Check out who owns it...

Here's a good read on the dynamics.

Please, don't embarrass yourself. You are comparing the WSJ's reputation to the Oregonian? One is read by bastions of industry and the other isn't. One portrays a fair vetted dynamic written for a general educated audience. The other questions context while claiming to be close to both coaches but hasn't yet offered an "on the record" from either coach about what transpired in Albuquerque. When all is said and done the episode harmed Nike and it's all Alberto's fault. It would be fun to poll Nike sponsored track and field athletes and ask how many of them feel strongly about their association. It would pale compared to how athletes feel about Asics, Brooks, and New Balance.

Summary wrote:

Schumacker should go back to Wisconsin.

Close. Pretty close. In your defense it was only written correctly twice above your post, so you only saw it that many times.

When it is written 10 times in a row (and you read it) maybe you will get it right.