BEN MF SAAREL!

That will happen when I fart rainbows and it smells like sherbert. They make most of their money via advertisers on the hits they get here, so in a sense, they sell out the athletes and coaches reputations to the trolls to make mo' money, mo' money, and MO' MONEY!

Ever notice wrote:

...You got a lot of heat for it because you and your brother have facilitated a board full of mostly a__holes.

Once in a while you and your brother should trade off sitting in the stands anonymously for a few hours and meet the real fans, the people who could be the majority on your boards, if you didn't allow the asshats to chase them off.

Nick Symmonds got it right when he said he had to "call you out about your board..."

But not Cheserek?

you sure? wrote:

I'm Less convinced about Cheserek. I know the dude was the best frosh today and he's an absolute beast, but he's been beasting for 3 years now with very little improvement. I mean, he ran well under 4:05 as a sophomore in high school and didn't PR in the mile last year. He's taking to the 8k and probably 10k well, but I just have a hunch that Saarel and Mcgorty will be significantly better by the end of 2017.

I completely disagree. Cheserek will probably be as good, if not better, than saarel and mcgorty. Cheserek was beasting as a soph because he's that talented. He got awful training in high school, but still ran 4:01 because he's a huge talent. Now that he's on an outstanding program, he'll become a monster.

Well I certainly hope so. All three of them are so good. This class has to be the strongest in a long time, and they're all performing to our expectations or even better.

Ches will come into his own as he adjusts to college life and racing , he will win individual titles before he is done.

While those three are doing so well, what's going on with Montoya? I'm sure he'll do a lot better in track, as some people just don't do well at cross, but I didn't think he would struggle as much as he is. 150th place at Wisconsin, as his latest result. And what happened to Arroyo?

Hhhh wrote:

While those three are doing so well, what's going on with Montoya? I'm sure he'll do a lot better in track, as some people just don't do well at cross, but I didn't think he would struggle as much as he is. 150th place at Wisconsin, as his latest result. And what happened to Arroyo?

Montoya ran much better at Griak- 24:58 on a course that ran something like 50 or 60 seconds slower than Wisconsin.

Trackjacket wrote:

My prediction: Saarel's collegiate career>McGorty's collegiate career.

lol lol lol lol wrote:

Hopefully they will both have excellent careers. Saarel seems to have more basic speed, McGorty perhaps more strength...

But Colorado isn't really a powerhouse of developing speed. Who is the last good 1500m runner they had? Pifer? And he was just the token pacesetter that would get outkicked every year.

Hhhh wrote:

While those three are doing so well, what's going on with Montoya? I'm sure he'll do a lot better in track, as some people just don't do well at cross, but I didn't think he would struggle as much as he is. 150th place at Wisconsin, as his latest result. And what happened to Arroyo?

Arroya had to redshirt his freshman season for at least cross country due to poor grades from high school. Hopefully he'll be back running track in the spring.

Thanks.

Saarel's not going to get outkicked a lot in track. He's making a very good start to his college xc career, McGorty even better, but we can't judge their seasons until nationals, which overshadow everything else.

you sure? wrote:

Too early to say that. I think both Mcgorty and Saarel have huge upside, and both are going to be outstanding. I'm Less convinced about Cheserek. I know the dude was the best frosh today and he's an absolute beast, but he's been beasting for 3 years now with very little improvement. I mean, he ran well under 4:05 as a sophomore in high school and didn't PR in the mile last year. He's taking to the 8k and probably 10k well, but I just have a hunch that Saarel and Mcgorty will be significantly better by the end of 2017.

Cheserek is also 22 - 23 years old, as a FROSH! LOL. If he were in Kenya he wouldn't be old enough or fast enough for their "Junior" squads, hahahahaa.

Do you have a source confirming that Cheserek is 22 to 23 years old?

he got 9th, whats the big deal...? cheserek and mcgorty both beat him,

george oscar bluth wrote:

Trackjacket wrote:

My prediction: Saarel's collegiate career>McGorty's collegiate career.

lol lol lol lol wrote:

Hopefully they will both have excellent careers. Saarel seems to have more basic speed, McGorty perhaps more strength...

But Colorado isn't really a powerhouse of developing speed. Who is the last good 1500m runner they had? Pifer? And he was just the token pacesetter that would get outkicked every year.

Hurysz running 3:40 last spring isn't bad at all.

Wetmore is a strength=speed guy. It's not like Hurysz's 3:40 was way faster than HS. He was a 1:52/4:08 guy I believe.

Trackjacket wrote:

My prediction: Saarel's collegiate career>McGorty's collegiate career.

lol lol lol lol wrote:

Hopefully they will both have excellent careers. Saarel seems to have more basic speed, McGorty perhaps more strength...

george oscar bluth wrote:

But Colorado isn't really a powerhouse of developing speed. Who is the last good 1500m runner they had? Pifer? And he was just the token pacesetter that would get outkicked every year.

observantobserver wrote:

Hurysz running 3:40 last spring isn't bad at all.

You're right, it isn't bad at all. A high school 4:06 mile/1:52 800m guy getting down to a 3:40 in a mid-season meet is a good progression but nothing outstanding. I'm just saying that most people are expecting Saarel to compete for a 1500m title at some point which is not something Colorado has a history of doing (although Coburn was pretty quick on the women's side).

rojo wrote:

Your welcome. I called the kid as a phenom last spring and got a lot of heat for it.

In case you've forgotten:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/05/mark-wetmore-is-going-to-be-a-very-happy-man-ben-saarel-is-a-special-talent/

Nice call. Is he still running or now full time weeping about his academic burdens

I missed the one where you called Cheserek with 15 national championships by his junior year

Saarel ran 3:39 this spring

An Oregon fanboy bumping a thread that had been dormant for years just to bash a CU guy?

Why am I not surprised?