RE: What is the single darkest moment in human history?

Legalization of abortion in America. An extremely evil sin was made "lawful" and 60 million babies have died so far. And you don't think God will bring these liberals to HIS justice? Oh, yes He will, oh yes He will.

You might be able to justify the first one. The second one was a lot more questionable. It was dropped because they wanted to test both variations.

Nope wrote:

Just like Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima/Nagasaki occurred in in the midst of war or the initiation of a wartime state. You who accused a poster of ignorance for suggesting PH...America warned Japan twice(probably more) that they were going to drop the nukes. Yes it is innocent civilians but Japan actually had control over the situation. In refusing to surrender they were failing to protect their citizens. Yes the atomic bombs caused more deaths initially but Pearl Harbor jump started the pacific part of WW2 which caused many deaths over the course of the war. Also, Japan offered no warning. I'm just playing devils advocate...but its is simply wrong to dismiss the idea that PH was not comparable to the atomic bombs. Yup.

No. The US gave Japan the option to surrender after the first bomb.

Pointing out the Obvious wrote:

[quote]starmiler wrote:

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But the African slave trade, perpetrated by whites and Africans both (although for the benefit of New World peoples of European stock), exiled 12-15 million people under the most brutal conditions imaginable for a long period, from the 16th to the 19th century. Many millions more died either in the middle passage or from disease, abuse and starvation once they arrived.

I don't know which is worse.

FALSE!

Why do people have such a hard time accepting that blacks were enslaving other blacks in Africa way before the Europeans showed up, continued to do so way past Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, and were most certainly doing so on a mass scale during the entire time of the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade?[/quote

so that makes it okay....so pathetic to past the buck

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The burning of the Library of Alexandria was definately one of the darkest times.The birth of the Abraham based religions is another.

Not in your Little Red Book? wrote:

And where is any evidence of causation? Did Mao also cause the population growth in the rest of the world from 1950 to 1980, because there was a huge growth in WORLD population at the same time.

You omitted the important numbers. There has been a huge growth in world population since the 1800s. World population was a little over a billion in 1840 and about double that in 1940, while Chinese population was about 400 million in 1840. Assuming a growth rate the same as the rest of the world, Chinese population should have been 800 million in 1940, instead it was a little over 400 million. What happened to the missing 400 million Chinese?

The corrupt Qing and Nationalist governments' inability to control and manage natural disasters was one factor, and their inability to expel foreign (western and Japanese) imperialists was the other factor. How many Chinese died from opium addiction?

How many hundreds of millions of Chinese survived because of Mao and Communist rule since 1949, by ending foreign control, providing (relatively) political stability, managing epidemics, famine, and other natural calamities?

If you want to compare death numbers, how many Vietnamese died as a result the 20 years of American presence there, normalize the number in terms of population size. For a more recent incidence, do the same with Iraq over the 5 years of W Bush's term, 2003-2008.

The day that the human race figured out how to use objects as money.Money is the cause of-war,divorce,robbery/burglary,political corruption-all levels,from local to international,religious corruption(teleavangelists)drug dealing,prostitution,slavery(labor laws in 3rd world),war on lower class,the current encarnation of the Republican Party(not Eisenhower's Repub Party),the military industrial complex,GOP's partisan politics(being the party of NO)-these are just a fee examples of what money does to us.

The day I'm staying with my parents, realizing that the only guy interested in me is my delusion on LR. That I didn't have the guts to go for the guy who would've been good for me. My own self-destructive actions scared him away.

Adler wrote:

The day I'm staying with my parents, realizing that the only guy interested in me is my delusion on LR. That I didn't have the guts to go for the guy who would've been good for me. My own self-destructive actions scared him away.

I wonder as I read your reply to my post if it was even intended as a reply to my post.I read a post from someone who is hurting becausr of a decision made about a signifigant other.I will say this,don't second guess yourself,your destructive actions came out because you felt the need to show them.If you subconciously pushed the guy away then your subconcious knew you were doing the right thing.Maybe you weren't ready to give what is expected?Who knows?You know.I not trying to sound like I know what's up or what's best for you,I just know that we do everything for a reason,conciously or subconciously.

Honey Boo Boo

And then they waited like 3 days before dropping the second one. Can you imagine the US congress trying to agree on something like this in 3 day? Imagine no communications, no real idea what happened, and having no concept of what a nuclear weapon was. Not possible. In this case the emperor started to put pressure on his government to start the peace process. Waiting a couple days would have resolved this. But it wouldn't have served the job of intimidating the soviets.

No Way wrote:

No. The US gave Japan the option to surrender after the first bomb.

asdfaafdafasd wrote:

You might be able to justify the first one. The second one was a lot more questionable. It was dropped because they wanted to test both variations.

Surprised no one has mentioned the systematic genocide of Native Americans. Certainly doesn't compare to Stalin, but it's pretty bad. And I guess there's no one moment either.

Texas Toast wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned the systematic genocide of Native Americans.

Newfoundland's cod moratorium.

Texas Toast wrote:

Surprised no one has mentioned the systematic genocide of Native Americans. Certainly doesn't compare to Stalin, but it's pretty bad. And I guess there's no one moment either.

I would think it's worse than Stalin. Disease, warfare, and loss of land I would put the numbers much higher than Stalin. Complete destruction of a culture and they still haven't recovered.

RuKiddingMe!!! wrote:

Pointing out the Obvious wrote:

[quote]starmiler wrote:

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But the African slave trade, perpetrated by whites and Africans both (although for the benefit of New World peoples of European stock), exiled 12-15 million people under the most brutal conditions imaginable for a long period, from the 16th to the 19th century. Many millions more died either in the middle passage or from disease, abuse and starvation once they arrived.

I don't know which is worse.

FALSE!

Why do people have such a hard time accepting that blacks were enslaving other blacks in Africa way before the Europeans showed up, continued to do so way past Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, and were most certainly doing so on a mass scale during the entire time of the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade?[/quote

so that makes it okay....so pathetic to past the buck

You might want to try the novel approach of actually responding to what another poster has said as opposed to making something up in your head about what they must be thinking.

Just a thought.

But hey, you could always past the buck and blame your incompetence on someone else, no? LOL

From how people have been writing they attribute all native american deaths to the US. Pizarro and Cortes killed way more natives than the US. Communism in all its atheistic glory has killed more people than religion ever has. By far one of the darkest moments in history was the rise of communism for not only does it have a higher death total but strips men of freedom which in my opinion is worse than death.

The disease was pretty much random chance. Europeans just happened to have the deadlier crap. The rest was noise. Plagues are diffrent type of bad than the ones with conscious human thought.

Tonto wrote:

Texas Toast wrote:

Surprised no one has mentioned the systematic genocide of Native Americans. Certainly doesn't compare to Stalin, but it's pretty bad. And I guess there's no one moment either.

I would think it's worse than Stalin. Disease, warfare, and loss of land I would put the numbers much higher than Stalin. Complete destruction of a culture and they still haven't recovered.