MOSER out BROWN in NEW WOMENS 1500 WC TEAM

Moser might be an extraterrestrial, and her home planet might have called her back to assume her rightful place as queen and regent of the vast Nebulon Empire.

On the other hand, the 30-something experiencing a sudden career revival might have dodged a test, which is the rumor I've heard. I dunno, take your pick.

So in this scenario, NOP has an incredibly sophisticated doping system, that, accusers would say, has allowed them to pass tests for years. But suddenly they're stymied by a surprise test?

You can't have it both ways--they can't have this elaborate system but also not be prepared for on-demand samples, one of the basic underpinnings of current anti-doping efforts.

So which is it?

We don't know if drugs have anything to do with it, and if the rumor is true, we don't have any reason to think that Nike was complicit.

That said, you can absolutely have it both ways. It has always been the case that elaborate doping systems work perfectly until they don't.

smd wrote:

So in this scenario, NOP has an incredibly sophisticated doping system, that, accusers would say, has allowed them to pass tests for years. But suddenly they're stymied by a surprise test?

You can't have it both ways--they can't have this elaborate system but also not be prepared for on-demand samples, one of the basic underpinnings of current anti-doping efforts.

So which is it?

I won't speak for other people, but here's my opinion: there is no NOP doping system, but a couple people in NOP/associated with Salazar dope. The sad truth is that it's probably not all that hard to beat the tests, or at least it wasn't before this year.

This is a very smart post. Surprised by a "surprise" blood test at the World Championships!

smd wrote:

So in this scenario, NOP has an incredibly sophisticated doping system, that, accusers would say, has allowed them to pass tests for years. But suddenly they're stymied by a surprise test?

You can't have it both ways--they can't have this elaborate system but also not be prepared for on-demand samples, one of the basic underpinnings of current anti-doping efforts.

So which is it?

Mosier doping makes sense. She comes back from the dead magically in the twilight of her career. Sounds aweful similar to other drug cheats. Man - MO has got to be doping.

So, Moser was excited to run her best time and compete at Moscow, but at the very last minute realized there was a doping test and pulled out, like everyone didn't already know about testing a long time ago?

The person coming up with that theory is not very bright.

So if she's injured, why wouldn't they put out an official statement ASAP that she is injured? The timeline doesn't make sense: word gets out that Sarah Brown is going to Moscow, Runner's World makes an article saying Moser is replaced by Brown, and Moser/her Agent/NOP say NOTHING about anything. Crap, all they have to do is send a tweet to Flotrack. This whole situation is perplexing.

I'm not an NOP fan by any means but I'm willing to give Moser the benefit of the doubt. It's understandable to be mum about an injury before a decision is made about racing. Why give opponents an extra edge on you if you decide to race? However, it doesn't make sense to still be quiet about it once it is clear you're not toeing the line.

News Reporter wrote:

Mosier doping makes sense. She comes back from the dead magically in the twilight of her career. Sounds aweful similar to other drug cheats. Man - MO has got to be doping.

How can you expect to be taken seriously with such poor spelling?

DKCCC wrote:

So if she's injured, why wouldn't they put out an official statement ASAP that she is injured? The timeline doesn't make sense: word gets out that Sarah Brown is going to Moscow, Runner's World makes an article saying Moser is replaced by Brown, and Moser/her Agent/NOP say NOTHING about anything. Crap, all they have to do is send a tweet to Flotrack. This whole situation is perplexing.

I'm not an NOP fan by any means but I'm willing to give Moser the benefit of the doubt. It's understandable to be mum about an injury before a decision is made about racing. Why give opponents an extra edge on you if you decide to race? However, it doesn't make sense to still be quiet about it once it is clear you're not toeing the line.

I don't understand why you think she needs to make a statement so fast. Why does she need to be so speedy about it? What harm is there in taking her time?

Or could she have tested possible (previous meet or USATF's) and was recently notified?

coach d wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

I am not hearing anything about drugs.

And you are not a track coach and you don't know anything about anything. People rarely come down with injuries 3 days before an opening heat because they are tapering. Either she has been injured for a while (and was hiding it) or there's something more sinister.

Basically it fits with the general reputation of the NOP.

re:"And you are not a track coach and you don't know anything about anything."

What is the purpsoe of that comment; who are you; are you in middle school?

jsksk wrote:

I don't understand why you think she needs to make a statement so fast. Why does she need to be so speedy about it? What harm is there in taking her time?

yes, you are right. i forgot that usatf has not made. the statement from moser will certainly come with that. if there's no statement with that THEN something weird is up.

It's "Moser" and not "Mosier". It's "awful" and not "aweful".

News Reporter wrote:

Mosier doping makes sense. She comes back from the dead magically in the twilight of her career. Sounds aweful similar to other drug cheats. Man - MO has got to be doping.

jsksk wrote:I don't understand why you think she needs to make a statement so fast. Why does she need to be so speedy about it? What harm is there in taking her time?

It makes sense to wait until the Nike legal team can come up with something. Let them handle it. Perhaps they can find some step in the procedure that wasn't followed properly, or some other loophole.

TrackCoach wrote:

What is the purpsoe of that comment; who are you; are you in middle school?

What are you, from the jerkstore????

If it were an injury, she wouldn't have suddenly dropped off the face of the planet. She would have made a statement. She would have congratulated Brown. She would have announced her disappointment and thanked her fans for their support through her miracle comeback. Furthermore, the announcement that Brown is in would have had some explanation regarding the injury if this were a simple, innocent, situation. It isn't one as evidenced by the lack of information flowing downstream.

There's no official word yet because she is using her right to avoid self-incrimination.

coach d wrote:

And you are not a track coach and you don't know anything about anything. People rarely come down with injuries 3 days before an opening heat because they are tapering. Either she has been injured for a while (and was hiding it) or there's something more sinister.

Basically it fits with the general reputation of the NOP.

To be a so called coach your stupidity is enourmous, but, intelligence isn't really to be a an average coach as yourself.

Two examples:

Måkestad before Olympic 1500m

Ndure before 100m in Moscow

An athlete in very good shape are also in danger of getting an injury due to being in that shape. Tapering for a top athlete before a championship is not as easy as you make it seem.

Go learn something fool.

shes blaming her hammie...

Treniere Moser ‏@TreniereMoser 3h

Devastated to miss World Champs. My hamstring is not responding to treatment fast enough. Go team USA plus @Mo_Farah and @CamLevins