Impending Drug Positives

Salvator Stitchmo wrote:

Furthermore it seems more plausible and in a way more acceptable (this is not the right word I am looking for but you get my drift) that an older athlete would cheat to try and hold on a bit longer/reclaim former glories.

For me VCB, Gay, Powell are just token catches to say "yeah we are onto it and poppong the big guys" when in reality, just like our sport is being unveiled as, its just smoke and mirrors

If it was about convincing Joe Public they'd catch some younger guys. I don't believe former World and Olympic champions risk their name by starting to dope at the end of their careers when they're on the slide. If Powell, VCB and Gay were doping this year, then I'd guess they were when they were at the top. They weren't caught then, so that doesn't exactly fill me with confidence that those that haven't failed tests are definitely clean. It's going to make me think the opposite.

Naive much?

What's going on in the United States right now with performance enhancers is as widespread as what happened in the GDR.

contrarian wrote:

Hopeful Runner wrote:

People thought the same about Lance.

While you may be right, I never thought that and don't recall anyone here saying that. What lance had against him is that he made a lot of enemies along the way and he was arrogant. I am sure he pissed off the wrong people. Bolt is the golden boy and can do no wrong.

The cycling announcers still refer to Contador as the the 07 and 09 champion of the tour. So they took down Lance because he was a jerk not really as much about the doping...

asu guy wrote:

The cycling announcers still refer to Contador as the the 07 and 09 champion of the tour. So they took down Lance because he was a jerk not really as much about the doping...

Lance could have saved some of his wins, but he fought too hard to keep his name completely clean. His ego got in the way and USADA went for the home run. Yes, we all assume Contador was also doping in '07 and '08, but until it's proven he's still the Tour champ in those years. USADA was able to prove that Lance was systematically doping throughout all 7 Tour wins. Lance was an unusual case, but ultimately his own stubbornness got in the way.

Lance made a number of mistakes along the way. One, like Indurain, he could have stopped at 5 wins. Join the all-time list of 5x winners and let it go. More importantly, he should have stayed retired. Even after 7 wins he could have walked away for good. He got greedy and missed the spotlight. His comeback triggered his downfall. Finally, had he just given poor old Landis a job he'd still be ok.

Turkish Federation said that "up to 45 athletes" tested positive this year.

Hmmmm ..what about the list of kenyans who are also in the pending file ... add to that Turkey/Russia/Jamaica etc etc and there's a whole chunk of the athletics world in the game

Pharmalita Cheater makes a mockery of the sport. Hopefully she gets busted.

Hopeful Runner wrote:

contrarian wrote:

I agree and it's not like vcb will get much more than a slap on the wrist. Bolt is too big to fail in much the same way Carl Lewis was.

People thought the same about Lance.

They only did him when he was finished anyway

Emil C wrote:

I have zero faith in WADA and the IAAF until Bolt, Blake, Jeter, and Merritt ALL test positive.

Until then they're playing favorites and only busting sacrificial lambs.

Have faith!

If you knew what I know, you would have faith.

Inspector Norse wrote:

Finland is Nordic, not Scandinavian.

uradumarse wrote:

javelin is about as big as baseball in scandinavia

Definitely not, except for Finland where it's the national sport. Norway and Sweden has some good javeliners, but they're basically living under bridges as far as sponsoring and interest goes.

Thorky??!!

Anyone but Bolt, who gets busted is a "sacrificial lamb". That seems to be the mantra of many as I read through these threads. It's become clear that a good number want Bolt busted because...

They feel hopeless as long as he is around

He is not American (how dare these Jamaicans)

His WR is untouchable

He is almost impossible to beat in championships

They want white sprinters to rise - Lemaitre LOL

He is not American

He is not American

He is not American

I hate to break it to you... the dude is clean and entirely fearless of drug tests. Even when he is gone, there are many more coming right behind him in Jamaica.

Whaaat? wrote:

Anyone but Bolt, who gets busted is a "sacrificial lamb". That seems to be the mantra of many as I read through these threads. It's become clear that a good number want Bolt busted because...

They feel hopeless as long as he is around

He is not American (how dare these Jamaicans)

His WR is untouchable

He is almost impossible to beat in championships

They want white sprinters to rise - Lemaitre LOL

He is not American

He is not American

He is not American

I hate to break it to you... the dude is clean and entirely fearless of drug tests. Even when he is gone, there are many more coming right behind him in Jamaica.

His WR is untouchable because it isn't clean. Sour grapes you say? Then answer me this , in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the 100 meters how many athletes have broken their personal best by over half a second and beaten the WR in one season? The answer is ONE. There are zero world class sprinters who can do that without the benefit of PEDS!

Physics is more interesting wrote:

Thorky??!!

One fly doesn't make a summer! ;-)

Norway's got Thorkildsen for some time and had Trine Hattestad before that, Sweden's got Amb now with his first DL victory this year and Boden once had the WR with 89,10 and a medalist named Eldebrink in the 80s. Exceptions to the rule of Scandinavia/Norden.

Finland's got close to ten medalists (male and female) over the last 30 years, pure javelin summer camps for youngsters and a support program for other countries to spread the sport.

'Then answer me this , in the ENTIRE HISTORY of the 100 meters how many athletes have broken their personal best by over half a second and beaten the WR in one season? The answer is ONE.'

So the ones who didn't are clean?

Whaaat? wrote:

Even when he is gone, there are many more coming right behind him in Jamaica.

That's not something to be proud of:

10 humans have run a wind-legal 9.80 or faster

7 of the 10 have been busted (so far)

6 of the 10 were born in Jamaica

This is about the most pathetic, stupid, flawed-logic reply to anything I have ever seen on these message boards. Congratulations.

Oldtimefan wrote:

His WR is untouchable because it isn't clean.

Really? Why didn't Tyson Gay, or any other doper break it then?

MY PED fantasy: a cross-wearing (meaning he or she is religious) fabulous runner decides to come clean in the eyes of God, and without even flunking a drug test, comes forward and confesses to PED use, and that from that point on, he or she will remain clean and fight to clean up the sport. Imagine that!