Martin Smith is the new ISU coach

J.R. wrote:

180 to 200k is not much of an increase.

There must have been other reasons for the move.

Martin wears out his welcome after about 7 years. Not that he was ever welcome in the first place. Not a people person.

ISU can have him wrote:

J.R. wrote:

180 to 200k is not much of an increase.

There must have been other reasons for the move.

Martin wears out his welcome after about 7 years. Not that he was ever welcome in the first place. Not a people person.

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Yeah after building them one of the top programs in the nation they got reeeal sick of him.. give me a break... The kind of person who can't find it in him to respect Smith obviously has a bigger ego than Smith does...

Smith just hates to lose period. He won't be out coached and definitely won't let anybody, whether it be that arrogant Frosh who thinks he's hott stuff, or Senior Studs that are full of confidence and themselves, stand in His way.

He was the motivational Catalyst for OU's success... If it wasn't for him OU would still be waiting to make the NCAA meet for CC.

This fuggin' know it all has it all figured out... he must coach at OSU or Oregon... or just another hatin' Joker.. #jealous

No, he really did wear out his welcome.

I'm sure you know.

I do, way more than you know.

BS... are you Castiglione's wife? How do you know if the AD was unhappy with Martin Smith? As far as I care that's the only performance review that matters... being that most people can't stomach him... just because they're weak minded, know it alls.

You think the AD at Oaklahoma doesn't have an ego?

Probably knew his time was up, or contract would not be renewed. Not hard to believe at big programs like this, coaches get stale fast in the business of sports.

The Animal Within wrote:

You think the AD at Oaklahoma doesn't have an ego?

Probably knew his time was up, or contract would not be renewed. Not hard to believe at big programs like this, coaches get stale fast in the business of sports.

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I guess it's about time for Vin and Dave Smith's tenure to up soon too then?

I just don't buy (he wore out his welcome) sounds so childish...

He created a monster that's what he did...

The program just attracts prima-donna superstars who bite the hand that feeds.

No one put more work into creating a environment to allow distance runners chase their dreams at the highest level than he did.

What I said is all you need to know. He's successful, but wears out his welcome everywhere he goes. Success, alone, doesn't guarantee you your job.

Lots of turnover over the next few years in the Martin Smith assistant coaching carousel.

ISU can have him wrote:

What I said is all you need to know. He's successful, but wears out his welcome everywhere he goes. Success, alone, doesn't guarantee you your job.

I'm sorry but I don't believe he was fired... more so, your vague description about how he "wore out his welcome" sounds rather ignorant... what is your merit? are you kevin schwab, or riley masters?

Just because an X athlete has a problem with his coaching style doesn't give anyone the right to say he didn't belong at OU in the 1st place... sounds like you have a personal vendetta against him to me, that's all...

I take back the last thing... you clearly stated that he was welcome in the 1st place... so you should elaborate about what is it exactly about Smith that he wears out his welcome [everywhere] he goes??

srthtsrh wrote:

CycloneAlum wrote:

One is 300m and is the only one used for competition. It surrounds a turf infield which is also great for strides. There is a second track on the 3rd floor of the same building that is roughly 300m as well and 3 lanes. It's good for warm-ups on meet days. The third one is across campus and in the same facility as an indoor pool and is connected to another indoor pool facility via a skywalk.

Which seems like a long way to say "no," but what do I know?

Yes, the 300m track is legal for setting ISU indoor records and it is legal for qualifying for nationals. Is it legal for world records or NCAA records "NO" but who is setting those on a regular basis anyway.

Holy cow -- that's a major upgrade for ISU. Why did Martin leave Oklahoma?

If true, a 10% raise is not sufficient reason to justify the move. He must have had other reasons. It will be harder to recruit talent to ISU.

sooner gone wrote:

$180,000.

Martin Smith had his happiest, most successful years in the mid-west. By moving on to Iowa State, he will be able to focus on building strong XC teams, and that's what he most enjoys. Martin Smith's wife, Renee, has family just a four hour drive from Ames, making her ecstatic over the move. He got a 7 year contract, with a $20,000 a year pay raise. These are a few of the reasons for his move. It looks like a great match, both for the Cyclones and for Martin.

Student wrote:

If true, a 10% raise is not sufficient reason to justify the move. He must have had other reasons. It will be harder to recruit talent to ISU.

sooner gone wrote:

$180,000.

How about having an athletic director that truly has the same goals as the head coach? At most schools the AD could care less about Track and/or CC. I also feel that recruiting distance runers will be easier at ISU compared to OU.

There's 2 tracks in state gym, not just the one. The other one is a banked track that is something like 120m. Either way, both tracks in state gym aren't the best for actually training on, and can be crowded with people, but if doing an easy shake out during winter they're good enough.

The new outdoor track is phenomenal. Snuck onto it for a few workouts this past year and it is nice and soft. I'm hoping they can host some meets there.

Is the new outdoor track in the same place as the old one?