17 POSITIVE TESTS FROM ENDURANCE ATHLETES!!.(not released by the IAAF yet) Make your bets here!

someone had to do it wrote: Hopefully Leo gets his gold[/quote]

caleb trotter wrote: Lets Hope![/quote]

Gold for "winning" second place. Tarnished.

olden-timer wrote:

twotimer wrote:

The pull away in the 1500 meters I would consider "evidence" or a slight hint that something is wrong here.

I stand by what I said. After the 1500 meter final in the Olympics, that pull away, was a sign that something was not right.

Ever heard of Billy Mills? His 10k Oly finish was the same thing. Did he dope before there was dope?

I am not suggesting that Billy Mills doped. But do you really believe that there was no PEDs before 1964? Are you serious?

Here is the story.

http://news.yahoo.com/doping-widespread-kenya-says-investigative-reporter-060648145--spt.html

Dude, yes, that would be hilarious to be honest.

Trollist wrote:

caleb trotter wrote:

Lets Hope!

I think it would be hilarious if Leo Manzano tested positive and Taoufik Makhloufi didn't.

Yes, Leo testing positive and mahkloufi not would be pretty damn funny given what the letsrun consensus was at the olympics.

epopian oops wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/21787567

Good find! This is interesting.

Well, according to Letsrun, I guess we have to add Jerry to the list...

Klmna wrote:

Yes, Leo testing positive and mahkloufi not would be pretty damn funny given what the letsrun consensus was at the olympics.

Let's see. Mahkdouchi earned disdain in his fake effort in the 800 prelims. The shot of him rubbing his a__ and limping as if he'd hurt himself. F him. POS. Dishonest in that alone.

And then the way he ran the 1500...even the announcers didn't believe it.

Manzano?

Worst you can say is he self hypnotized himself into an excellent performance.

fine point wrote:

Klmna wrote:

Yes, Leo testing positive and mahkloufi not would be pretty damn funny given what the letsrun consensus was at the olympics.

Let's see. Mahkdouchi earned disdain in his fake effort in the 800 prelims. The shot of him rubbing his a__ and limping as if he'd hurt himself. F him. POS. Dishonest in that alone.

And then the way he ran the 1500...even the announcers didn't believe it.

Manzano?

Worst you can say is he self hypnotized himself into an excellent performance.

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well Manzano only got the medal because everyone else burned themselves out chasing makhloufi down the backstretch - he won the lottery on that one.

THat's another reason drugs are so bad - they foul up the results even if the druggie is dqd.

Barnard Lagat is the obvious choice....come on...he test postive before

Could it be Galen Rupp? Duck could you comment as to the thyroid condition that requires drugs to medicate for the situation as it pertains to your golden boy Galen Rupp?

openyoureyes wrote:

Barnard Lagat is the obvious choice....come on...he test postive before

No, he did not; the one sample that gave a possible positive was an invalid sample and could not have been used in the first place. The reason is that the sample was not kept cool and was kept in that condition for 72 hours. WADA has problems because they are not always able to keep a sample in a continually cool environment for 36 hours. Given that this has almost completely stymied WADA etc. then you can see why 72 hours (in an non-secure environment, I think) without cooling provides essentially nothing of any informational content as to doping. Bringing it up repeatedly without bothering to read the extensive documentation that is available on the net if you look (including a long explanation by one of the top anti-doping experts) indicates that you are either unwilling or unable to actually understand the whole testing process -- thus you have absolutely nothing to offer of any content.

Of course, you could/probably are one of those idiotic LetsRun trolls that think way too highly of themselves. Especially because you are hiding behind a one-time posting name, which by itself indicates that your post has nothing of value. You want a reputation, go earn it.

YOU ARE WRONG.

The A sample was positive. The mishandling was with the B sample. He got off on a technicality.

While I have long been a defender of Lagat's "positive" and the explanation you just gave it is worth noting that with epo testing the key has always been to have the b sample tested as long as possible after the test as it will have essentially deteriorated as such and no longer provide a positive. Athletes delay the actual testing until their window reaches the deadline and then have it tested and voila they are exonerated.

Again not saying this was the case or not for Lagat but he did wait as long as possible to have the b sample tested. Testing has also supposedly become more advanced but it is true many believe this is what happened in several postive A's that produced negative B samples including Marion Jones.

caleb trotter wrote:

someone had to do it wrote:

Hopefully Leo gets his gold

Lets Hope!

I think it would be hilarious if Leo Manzano tested positive and Taoufik Makhloufi didn't.

trollism wrote:

That list has 18 names on it though, which one is not on the list?

One correct though, good old Tirunesh confirms her guilt by pulling out of London.

Won't be announced though. She'll have a longish injury as instructed.

What do you mean? By your reasoning, she can do whatever she wants with impunity. It doesn't really make sense then that the anti-doping authorities would even keep biological passports on file for people that they don't want catch, does it?

But of course, the entire line of thinking is complete bunk.

Haha, if you think Tirunesh is clean you're deluded.

She's on the list, she's currently banned, we're not going to hear about it.

she's not clean

but still

i'd be very surprised if she's on the list