Don't worry about global warming, worry bout Iran getting Nuclear weapons, North Korea's Nuclear arsenal and the Chinese cyber attacks..all the above will impact your life on earth far greater than global warming. The earth will survive, it always does..extinction for the human race is just part of what mother earth has in store for us.
The Whole Reasoning behind is: wrote:
The Weather cannot be accurately predicted for next week, what makes you think that it can be predicted LONG TERM? William M. Gray,"a pioneer in the science of forecasting hurricanesand one of the world's leading experts on tropical storms" ..."is skeptical of current theories of human-induced global warming, which he says is supported by scientists afraid of losing grant funding and promoted by government leaders and environmentalists seeking world government. He believes that humans are not responsible for the warming of the earth and has stated that "We're brainwashing our children." He asked, "How can we trust climate forecasts 50 and 100 years into the future (that can’t be verified in our lifetime) when they are not able to make shorter seasonal or yearly forecasts that could be verified?"
Gray said those who had linked global warming to the increased number of hurricanes in recent years were in error. He cites statistics showing that there were 101 hurricanes from 1900 to 1949, in a period of cooler global temperature, compared to 83 from 1957 to 2006 when the earth warmed.
The height of the waves at a specific place on the coast can't be predicted a week in advance. The tides on the other hand can be predicted quite accurately years in advance.
Please provide any available empirical evidence that support your AGW theory. Waiting.....waiting.....still waiting....... I thought so.
Ted05 wrote:
Please provide any available empirical evidence that support your AGW theory. Waiting.....waiting.....still waiting....... I thought so.
uhm, all the temperature readings that show GW, and the overwhelmingly strong models that show it correlates with human activity, even after accounting for sunspots, volcanoes, cow farts (which, by the way, are only a big contributor due to the human breeding of cows in numbers far beyond what would naturally occur), etc.
But you won't accept any of that will you Ted?
You have been duped! Astronomy is a big hoax.
For example, astronomers used to teach that there were canals on Mars!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_canal
Now they deny that there are any canals!
How can you believe anything astronomers say if they change their theories over time?!?!?!?!?
Can you post the link to the Time cover. It turns out there was never a cover but it was a photo shopped hoax.
"Sorry, a TIME Magazine Cover Did Not Predict a Coming Ice Age
A doctored TIME magazine cover warns of a coming ice age. But the reality remains that the world is warming, thanks chiefly to human action"
It was the cover in 1977 "The Big Chill". Here are some excerpts.
Time
Science: Another Ice Age?
Monday, Nov. 13, 1972
The arrival of another ice age has long been a chilling theme of science fiction. If the earth's recent history is any clue, says Marine Geologist Cesare Emiliani of the University of Miami, a new ice age could become a reality.
Writing in Science, Emiliani reports that the earth has undergone at least eight periods of extreme cold and seven of torrid heat in the past 400,000 years. His conclusion is based on cores of ocean sediment from the Caribbean. Composed of the remains of tiny sea animals, the layered sediment provides a record of climatic changes. When the oceans warm up,...
Time
Another Ice Age?
June 24, 1974
In Africa, drought continues for the sixth consecutive year, adding terribly to the toll of famine victims. During 1972 record rains in parts of the U.S., Pakistan and Japan caused some of the worst flooding in centuries. In Canada's wheat belt, a particularly chilly and rainy spring has delayed planting and may well bring a disappointingly small harvest. Rainy Britain, on the other hand, has suffered from uncharacteristic dry spells the past few springs. A series of unusually cold winters has gripped the American Far West, while New England and northern Europe have...
Time
WEATHER: The Big Freeze
Monday, Jan. 31, 1977
Why had the rain turned white? Startled millionaires wintering in their baronial mansions in West Palm Beach, Fla., peered closer last week at the miracle that was falling from the skies and discovered—could it be?—yes, the substance was snow, the first ever reported there. Since mid-November, pedestrians in Dallas, unaccustomed to such hazards, have been slipping on sleet-slicked sidewalks. Meanwhile, a series of blizzards has smothered Buffalo this winter with an astonishing 126.6 in. of snow.
From the Dakotas and Minnesota, across the icy Great Lakes of the Middle West and down...
Newsweek
April 28, 1975
The Cooling World
There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.
Since the dawn of time Mankind has in his hubris has thought that his actions contributed to the weather and the global thermodynamics. It's how and why religion was invented. Now we have scientists and politicians playing the same game, just in a secular setting. Carbon credits are the indulgences of the modern world.
There's nothing to see here. It's an old old gag, just some people fall for it over and over. The earth changes, it gets colder, it gets warmer, but has nothing to do with the actions of human beings.
We should take care of the planet. We shouldn't kill off every animal. We should do what we can to have cleaner energy, but we should do these things because in the long run they are better for us, not because it will have one iota of affect on warming or cooling of the earth.
Tourism Bill wrote:
Time magazine cover 1975: "HOW TO SURVIVE THE COMING ICE AGE"
You have established that you are unable to distinguish between pop culture (Time magazine cover in 1975) and science (current research on AGW).
Good job!
bferrell wrote:
It was the cover in 1977 "The Big Chill". Here are some excerpts.
Time
Science: Another Ice Age?
Monday, Nov. 13, 1972
The arrival of another ice age has long been a chilling theme of science fiction. If the earth's recent history is any clue, says Marine Geologist Cesare Emiliani of the University of Miami, a new ice age could become a reality.
Writing in Science, Emiliani reports that the earth has undergone at least eight periods of extreme cold and seven of torrid heat in the past 400,000 years. His conclusion is based on cores of ocean sediment from the Caribbean. Composed of the remains of tiny sea animals, the layered sediment provides a record of climatic changes. When the oceans warm up,...
Time
Another Ice Age?
June 24, 1974
In Africa, drought continues for the sixth consecutive year, adding terribly to the toll of famine victims. During 1972 record rains in parts of the U.S., Pakistan and Japan caused some of the worst flooding in centuries. In Canada's wheat belt, a particularly chilly and rainy spring has delayed planting and may well bring a disappointingly small harvest. Rainy Britain, on the other hand, has suffered from uncharacteristic dry spells the past few springs. A series of unusually cold winters has gripped the American Far West, while New England and northern Europe have...
Time
WEATHER: The Big Freeze
Monday, Jan. 31, 1977
Why had the rain turned white? Startled millionaires wintering in their baronial mansions in West Palm Beach, Fla., peered closer last week at the miracle that was falling from the skies and discovered—could it be?—yes, the substance was snow, the first ever reported there. Since mid-November, pedestrians in Dallas, unaccustomed to such hazards, have been slipping on sleet-slicked sidewalks. Meanwhile, a series of blizzards has smothered Buffalo this winter with an astonishing 126.6 in. of snow.
From the Dakotas and Minnesota, across the icy Great Lakes of the Middle West and down...
Newsweek
April 28, 1975
The Cooling World
There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.
The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it. In England, farmers have seen their growing season decline by about two weeks since 1950, with a resultant overall loss in grain production estimated at up to 100,000 tons annually. During the same time, the average temperature around the equator has risen by a fraction of a degree – a fraction that in some areas can mean drought and desolation. Last April, in the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded, 148 twisters killed more than 300 people and caused half a billion dollars’ worth of damage in 13 U.S. states.
You have established that you are unable to distinguish between pop culture (Time and Newsweek magazines in 1975) and science (current research on AGW).
Good job!
luv2run wrote:
The folks in NE digging out of snow and awaiting more probably are thinking the ice age arrived.
Good point. Clearly NE, which represents roughly 1/30 of 1% of the surface of the Earth during one week tells us everything we need to know about the entire surface of the Earth over the coming centuries.
derps wrote:
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change deniers and religious/bible bashing/lack of university qualifications/gun-toting violence beliefs/republican fanatic etc.
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change theists is and 'secular' liberal humanists who need to believe in the eschatological 'end times myth' after all?
Even the name you give your opponents who doubt the faith - 'climate change deniers' - is like something out of the trial of Galileo.
I already died from SARS so I don't care about the ice
http://www.virology.ws/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/20030505_400.jpg
Coevett wrote:
derps wrote:
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change deniers and religious/bible bashing/lack of university qualifications/gun-toting violence beliefs/republican fanatic etc.
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change theists is and 'secular' liberal humanists who need to believe in the eschatological 'end times myth' after all?
Even the name you give your opponents who doubt the faith - 'climate change deniers' - is like something out of the trial of Galileo.
Yes, with the science of climatology playing the role of Galileo, and the climate change deniers playing the role of the religious persecutors. The only faith at play here is your belief in a fairy tale that is not to be questioned. Science is always open to question.
Coevett wrote:
derps wrote:
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change deniers and religious/bible bashing/lack of university qualifications/gun-toting violence beliefs/republican fanatic etc.
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change theists is and 'secular' liberal humanists who need to believe in the eschatological 'end times myth' after all?
Even the name you give your opponents who doubt the faith - 'climate change deniers' - is like something out of the trial of Galileo.
Bang on target.
YMMV wrote:
Coevett wrote:
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change theists is and 'secular' liberal humanists who need to believe in the eschatological 'end times myth' after all?
Even the name you give your opponents who doubt the faith - 'climate change deniers' - is like something out of the trial of Galileo.
Bang on target.
Repeating now:
Yes, with the science of climatology playing the role of Galileo, and the climate change deniers playing the role of the religious persecutors. The only faith at play here is your belief in a fairy tale that is not to be questioned. Science is always open to question.
@coevett wrote:
Coevett wrote:
I wonder what the correlation is between climate change theists is and 'secular' liberal humanists who need to believe in the eschatological 'end times myth' after all?
Even the name you give your opponents who doubt the faith - 'climate change deniers' - is like something out of the trial of Galileo.
Yes, with the science of climatology playing the role of Galileo, and the climate change deniers playing the role of the religious persecutors. The only faith at play here is your belief in a fairy tale that is not to be questioned. Science is always open to question.
Hmmm..pretty sure that the 'climate change' lobby is the orthodoxy that is refusing to be challenged, even to the extent of suggesting that it should be illegal to challenge it.
I have no position on climate change. I just think the attitudes of the climate change establishment seem of the same type, and held by the same people, who have tried to force such very unscientific dogmas as gender identity and the like upon society.
And the belief in imminent 'end times', to which can only be survived by 'believers', is very ancient idea common to many or most religions, including Christianity.
You even have this weird 16 year old Danish girl becoming the 'messiah' of the faith, or rather maybe a Virgin Mary figure, telling world leaders to repent their sins and believe in her, or they and the world will (literally) burn in hell.
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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