I run that kind of mileage (80-90 mpw) in the mizuno wave universe. Weighs only 3.9 oz. I've run 140 days in a row without taking a day off so its been working fine for me.
I run that kind of mileage (80-90 mpw) in the mizuno wave universe. Weighs only 3.9 oz. I've run 140 days in a row without taking a day off so its been working fine for me.
Grass and trails.
bleu wrote:
I hate all the Free and minimal crap. I think people like to boast that they are "real" runners because they wear no shoes. Every time you see clips of the Africans running they usually have these bulky old trainers on. Rupp trains in Triax shoes since HS. Frees are great for walking around the house but who wants to wear a shoe that feels lighter than your spikes? I have yet to meet a Nike sponsored distance runner who trains in frees. If there is one please inform me.
The Vomero is very cushioned. I sometimes feel they are too cushioned but still wear them. The new Glides aren't bad more responsive but not more cushioned. You should read the posts on RW and RRS about each of the shoes you are looking at. Some of the shoes you listed are very stiff. The Vomero is a flexible shoe. Often, for me, flexibility is the issue and not weight. If a shoe is stiff I finish a run feeling like I fought the shoe every step of the way.
That's fine if you don't like them, but the Frees are NOT minimal in any way, shape or form.
Your above rant merely illustrates how unfamiliar with the shoe you are.
OP asked about a durable, high-mileage shoe with CUSHION and the Free fits that description perfectly. Quite comfortable and relatively inexpensive (especially on sale) as well.
And then you go on about flexibility? Which is essentially the Free's defining characteristic?
Yeah, try again mate.
Dig up some old pairs of the Nike LunarGlide 2 on eBay. They are now very cheap. I used to run in the Vomero and Pegasus and have switched to the old LunarGlide.
"Mate?" I posted my opinion on the Free's. I never said they weren't flexible. I said I don't like them and I do have a pair which I received for free and use to walk around the training room. I don't run in them and explained why. You can go ahead and train in what ever shoe you like. The poster wanted opinions and I wouldn't consider my post a "rant." Free's are minimal for 99% of the world. You are entitled to post your opinion but keep your cut downs on other opinions to yourself.
For midfoot and neutral strike I would say I've had the best luck with Nimbus and seen the best results with them. I'm not talking about just me, but on my college team. There we had the option of just about any major shoes we wanted and all of the high-mileage guys who were neutral strikes seemed to be in Nimbus and sing their praises.
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The price isn't bad, and if you dont want to drop that kind of cash just step down a model or 2. The difference will be negligible.
Thanks for the input everyone. Yeah so far I say the Nimbus are the best match. I'm going to try them on when I get a chance.
ian edwards wrote:
Nike Shox. Right now I alternate my Shox and Vomeros just about every run.
How in the world did you do those 48 miles in the shox man? I can't fathom running a step in those.
bleu wrote:
"Mate?" I posted my opinion on the Free's. I never said they weren't flexible. I said I don't like them and I do have a pair which I received for free and use to walk around the training room. I don't run in them and explained why. You can go ahead and train in what ever shoe you like. The poster wanted opinions and I wouldn't consider my post a "rant." Free's are minimal for 99% of the world. You are entitled to post your opinion but keep your cut downs on other opinions to yourself.
I don't think you understand the things you're writing.
Your opening line was:
"I hate all the Free and minimal crap. I think people like to boast that they are "real" runners because they wear no shoes."
That's a rant. You don't give facts, you just throw out an abrasive paragraph denigrating anyone who uses a shoe you don't like (despite said shoe fitting the description of the shoe the OP is looking for AS WELL as meeting your "flexibility" requirement).
And NO, as I said, there is NOTHING minimal about the Frees, especially the Free Runs/5.0s.
And then you go on about "my" cutdowns?
Like I said, try again. And learn what constitutes a fact and opinion (oh, and minimal), bud.
The idea that more cushioned shoes are better for high mileage is a fallacy.
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It's like asking for the best sunglasses for a long, sunny-day.
Try a bunch on and let us know.
How so? I would try it but the risk is me getting injured.
Nike Air Pegasus 2005.....the best shoe i ever had.
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For that mileage two (at least) to rotate is one of the keys to staying healthy. For one with a lot of cushioning like the Vomero try the Glycerine, Triumph or Nimbus. Maybe use a Pegasus, Ghost or even Kinvara for a slightly lighter, but still cushy shoe for workouts.
Most importantly, if you've been healthy, ignore everyone saying to make a complete category change for your main shoe. If you have one, use a good local running store to double check your gait and wear pattern in person.
Not a Coach wrote:
I used to get injured when I wore cushioned shoes on my longer runs. My regular shoes are fine. I wear the hobby joggers favorite...Newtons.
Me too. I was always getting injured wearing cushioned shoes. I haven't had an injury in 3 years since switching to Newtons. I do wear the Sir Isaacs, the most cushioned of the Newton range.
A pine needles trail.
Lim Jahey wrote:
ian edwards wrote:Nike Shox. Right now I alternate my Shox and Vomeros just about every run.
How in the world did you do those 48 miles in the shox man? I can't fathom running a step in those.
Same way you run in whatever shoes you run in. I've been wearing Shox since I was in elementary school, so of course when I started running the first time I had a pair of Shox on.
What's up with the spamming on this thread? Anyway, I was wondering, what's the general opinion for when to get new shoes? I usually try to get new shoes every 3-4 months, and have a little more than 600 miles in my current shoes and they're a little worn...