Makhloufi out of Stockholm and Lausanne DL meets

swdrunner wrote:

why is everyone think Makhloufi is doping and the rest of the is clean, because he won the race? does anyone who wins a gold doper? Well, get use to it Makhloufi ain't going anywhere and he will dominate the 1500m for the next 4 years

5 points of light:

1. He comes from region with a history of doping.

2. He has no championship pedigre at the Jr. level.

3. He set massive PRs in a short period of time.

4. As a journeyman middle distance runner, he attempted one of the most difficult doubles in track, which is something more accomplished athletes like Kiprop did not consider.

5. Semis are sometimes more stressful than finals and he made it look like a cakewalk, which looked very similar to what another doper from the same region did once.

...of course none of this means he is dirty, but it does make you speculate.

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TrackCoach wrote:

5 points of light:

1. He comes from region with a history of doping.

2. He has no championship pedigre at the Jr. level.

3. He set massive PRs in a short period of time.

4. As a journeyman middle distance runner, he attempted one of the most difficult doubles in track, which is something more accomplished athletes like Kiprop did not consider.

5. Semis are sometimes more stressful than finals and he made it look like a cakewalk, which looked very similar to what another doper from the same region did once.

...of course none of this means he is dirty, but it does make you speculate.

1. I'm not sure you can lump Morocco and Algeria into a "region." Very few Algerians have actually been busted. No one who shares a coach with Mak-Daddy has been busted.

2. Not relevant. Some elites were great as Juniors, others weren't. Manzano has no international Junior credentials to speak of. On the flip side, Ramzi was actually a silver medalist at the African Junior Champs.

3. His drops in PRs are similar to those made by Webb, Manzano, etc.

4. Four runners went into the Olympics with the 800/1500 double declared: Mak-Daddy, Ali, Birmingham, and Kaki. Unfortunately, the IOC (or IAAF or whomever) effed up the track schedule so the double wasn't possible. The latter three runners managed to scratch on time, Mak-Daddy didn't. He was FORCED to line up for the 800 heat against his will as he missed the cut-off date to scratch - nearly all news outlets ignored this fact. I don't blame him for DNFing, I blame those who messed up the meet schedule.

5. Valid point. Initially I thought he had wasted so much energy in the semi that he'd be crushed in the final. Obviously that didn't happen.

Rojo,

I'm sure you know that what's been stated is a very common dodge when an A sample is positive and the B hasn't been tested yet (fingers crossed).

Do they have drug testing at either of these meets?

Of course they have drug testing. Amine Laalou was caught after he tested positive from the Monaco DL.

In support of TrackCoach, Manzano won NCAAs as a freshman. I think that probably counts as a championship pedigree regardless of international credentials.

I do not normally draw anime wrote:

TrackCoach wrote:

5 points of light:

2. He has no championship pedigre at the Jr. level.

...of course none of this means he is dirty, but it does make you speculate.

2. Not relevant. Some elites were great as Juniors, others weren't. Manzano has no international Junior credentials to speak of. On the flip side, Ramzi was actually a silver medalist at the African Junior Champs.

If he does test positive it will be lucky for Manzano that he was allowed to compete...we will never know for sure, but its likely that Makhloufi wore out the other competitors in the first place so Manzano could sneak in for silver.

You have an interesting take and you are probably correct. The algerian is not running in Europe so the PEDs can be eliminated from his system. I would love to see Manzano get the gold if the other guy is dirty. YOu may never see this guy run in competition again so he can never be busted.

I think Bing search engine blows.

Uh, why do you guys think that Diamond League testing is more stringent than at the Olympics? If he has PEDs in his system, he's screwed either way.

Here are the three possibilities, as I see it:

1) He's really injured

2) His A sample has tested positive, and he's waiting for the B sample test

3) He's laying low because someone's pissed at him for faking an injury in the 800 semis.

Real news Taoufik Makhloufi had busy week since Olympic gold medal TV interviews plus newpaper.

He will be in Stockholm DL for sure. So to the idiots give the guy a break

Here is some clips shows how he welcomed in his home nation. heroooooooo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLfNI7EzKcc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puFIosQWS1Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSWwyFyY5lQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyphQWfNBQI

I only use DuckDuckGo

and I'm not even a U of Oregon grad.

Azaleas wrote:

Uh, why do you guys think that Diamond League testing is more stringent than at the Olympics? If he has PEDs in his system, he's screwed either way.

Here are the three possibilities, as I see it:

1) He's really injured

2) His A sample has tested positive, and he's waiting for the B sample test

3) He's laying low because someone's pissed at him for faking an injury in the 800 semis.

Didn't they announce that shot putter's positive before the B was tested?

Did the shot putter just come clean when her A tested positive? Because they're really not supposed to leak A test results. People who do deserve to be sued for ruining someone's livelihood over a false positive.

So, am I the only one who thought that Rojo was posting a joke? A pretty good joke, about how much Bing sucks as a translator compared to Google? Because this translation is ridiculously bad, even if you don't compare it to Google.

rojo wrote:

Who uses google anymore? Everyone uses bing.

Bing translator:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radioalgerie.dz%2Ffr%2Fsports%2Fathletisme%2F24986-athletisme-makhloufi-out-pour-les-meetings-de-stockholm-et-lausanne%3Futm_source%3Dtwitterfeed%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter

"According to the Federation Algerian athletics (FAA), Makhloufi is not fully restored the injury incurred in the semi-final of the 1500m in the OJ of London, it will be this Friday in Stockholm to "continue his season".

The return of the Olympic champion in the competition, could be done on 26 August, at the meeting in Birmingham, England. Four days later (August 30), Makhloufi probably moved by the Zurich meeting (Switzerland). At these events, Makhloufi account align in 1500 m, only."

Real article here:

I still think he was joking. Google is among the most profitable companies in the world on the strength of search. Bing loses money every year.

tjmiler wrote:

If he does test positive it will be lucky for Manzano that he was allowed to compete...we will never know for sure, but its likely that Makhloufi wore out the other competitors in the first place so Manzano could sneak in for silver.

If anyone had actually worn themselves out in that semi-final, then they would have been too stupid to beat Manzano in the first place. It was very clear that everyone in the field let Makhloufi have his heyday and decided to battle for second place and on.

Lol, I missed it. Funny read.