Rupp did it. Beat Lagat!

fgfg wrote:

devil's advocate

this race is for third place

You are probably right. Honestly - at this point with how pathetic american born distance runners have fared in international competition lately, I will gladly take a bronze medal in either the 10K or the 5K. The 10K is his premier event anyway - so I am sure he would be pleased with a bronze in the 5,000.

game, set, balls indeed. Well said whoever said that.

haters...go ahead and hate, but it's going to be a very very long next 10 years for you boys.

That's amazing.

cmyawn wrote:

Note Rupp closed FASTER than Nick Symmonds did in the 800. Rupp 52.54, Symmonds 52.61. Wow.

i suck at the 5k wrote:

That's amazing.

cmyawn wrote:

Note Rupp closed FASTER than Nick Symmonds did in the 800. Rupp 52.54, Symmonds 52.61. Wow.

Yet one more reason why Rupp should try an 800m race.

Rupp, when asked about breaking Pre's record, said, "the courage he had was phenomenal"....meaning, he had no problems leading, or going from the gun. two things Rupp is afraid to do. I am not a fan, but I hope he does well in London for US Distance running sake. But I don't see it happening.

I yelled so loud for Rupp to win I woke up our 9 yr old who stumbled out of his room and said "Who is RUPP????"

JKal wrote:

I yelled so loud for Rupp to win I woke up our 9 yr old who stumbled out of his room and said "Who is RUPP????"

Hopefully you won't have to explain to your youngster why Rupp is oneday on trial ala Roger Clemens.....ouch!

Sprintgeezer wrote:

But if it ends up being tactical, like everybody predicts, I think his competitors (including Lagat) will see tape of this race and will wait until the straight to blow by him. Of course there will be more group dynamics in the Olympic final, but it looks to me that if Rupp wants to replicate this type of performance in London, he will need to be in the lead in the final turn, and thereby make sure that nobody is very far in front of him. He might be able to make up a meter or two with this type of performance relative to Lagat's type of performance, but one more meter on the Olympic field? I don't think so.

Yes, Olympics are tactical, but rarely slow. Look at the last results:

1. Kenenisa Bekele, ETH, 27:01.17

2. Sileshi Sihine, ETH, 27:02.77

3. Micah Kogo, KEN, 27:04.11

4. Moses Ndiema, Masai, KEN, 27:04.11

5. Zersenay Tadese, ERI, 27:05.11

6. Haile Gebrselassie, ETH, 27:06.68

7. Martin Irungu Mathathi, KEN, 27:08.25

Bekele's last mile was 4:02, 1K around 2:26, 400 was 53.42, and 200 was 26.4. I'm now convinced that Rupp, if everything continues to fall into place and he peaks as planned, IS capable of a similar finish, and even winning the gold.

Okay, I admit I am more in the hobby jogger catagory than most of you on Lets Run, but I had a question. I thought it was a great race and an exciting finish, but the winning time was 13:22:67. The Olympic A standard is 13:20 and a lot of guys in the field did not have the A standard. Why weren't more guys taking chances and trying to push the pace more early on? It was a fun tactical race, but was it really that good with no one running the A standard?

Lagat has a minor chink in his armor. Sometimes he can't keep his blazing speed for the whole straight. Think of El G re-passing him for 1500 gold. Think of Bekele re-passing him for 2009 5000 WC gold.

If Bernard can wait until 80M out to unleash the kick, no one re-passes him. Or, his age is getting him.

The poster who says Mo and Rupp are juiced, have you ever heard of working your butt off over a sustained period to achieve a goal? Probably not.

You can't say "rarely" slow and then cite one example. That was also an Olympic record by a wide margin.

In a super competitive race I don't think Lagat would have let Rupp on the iside like that. Don't know why he did that but he could have shut off that lane and forced Rupp outside and probably that would have been enough for Lagat to win. Just IMHO

2004 - 27:05.10

2000 - 27:18.20 (with qualifying heats!)

1996 - 27:07.34

Good enough for you?

While watching the race:

What the f a white man is finally gonna beat a legit kenyan !!!!!!!!!!! huge balls

I had a question. I thought it was a great race and an exciting finish, but the winning time was 13:22:67. The Olympic A standard is 13:20 and a lot of guys in the field did not have the A standard. Why weren't more guys taking chances and trying to push the pace more early on? It was a fun tactical race, but was it really that good with no one running the A standard?[/quote]

You do raise a good question, since most of the guys racing didn't have the Olympic A standard, like true and company, you have to wonder why they didn't push the pace early? Even if they did get top three, without that standard they aren't going to london. I can't really answer why they didn't go for it early, i can speak from experience however that when you're in a big race with complete studs, its way more tempting to just sit on them, hope they carry you to where you need be time wise, and believe that by some miracle you can pick one of them off at the end.

Regardless of what prevented the B standard guys from going for it, this race was incredible. Keep in mind that even though Rupp won in a time that was two seconds off the A standard, he still broke pre's olympic trials 5k record. The OT's are not rabbited, and usually are way slower than 13:22. Last nights race was the fastest olympic trials 5k ever, so IMO it was pretty amazing.

What would Rupp running an 800 accomplish other satisfy your curiosity?

We all know Rupp is fast as hell in the 5000/10000 and anyone who is fast as hell in those distances can run a pretty good 800 by most people's standards. We know that 3:33 or 3:34 is about his 1500 range at the moment and the shorter the distance, the worse he gets relatively speaking. So what would you hope to see? Could he run 1:45? Yeah maybe. 1:41? No freaking way.

I am not saying he should never race an 800, and he has raced a few, it before, but it just sounds like you are expecting to see a time that ain't gonna happen.

pretty exclusive company Rupp is joining on the "re-passing lagat" list.

So far this year Rupp has beaten Bekele and Lagat. 2 good scalps!

Now, do it in London too!

Shaky but here if you missed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdc7cfbNNCw