Crossfitter Brian Mackenzie on running - This is hilarious

No one would say anything about xfit if the douches didn't post on here or youtube or whatever about how xfit will make you into an endurance athlete when they have no proof to back it up. The FTC should step in and squash them like they did Kevin Trudeau for making such ridiculous claims to make money and raise awareness of their gyms. No one is posting on a xfit website about how running 20 miles a week will make your deadlift stronger or let you bench more, but the claims xfitters are making are just as ridiciulous, exemplifying the stereotype that they xfitters along with body builders are stupid meatheads.

UK Novice wrote:

What i love is that there is so much hate for an "Alternative" endurance program.

Equally i love the fact you were all shut-up by someone that told you how it is - that on some occasions and for people with less time on their hands CF training works!

If CF dont work for you, dont do it. If you dont agree with it, fine. Why you gotta go hating on other peoples programs like you are some superior being?

Well done to all you that managed 30-100 Mile endurance runs without CF, but equally hats off to those that managed to do it based purely on CF.

Ummmm, wha??? wrote:

No one is posting on a xfit website about how running 20 miles a week will make your deadlift stronger

Because it won't. Anything besides Sprints is a waste of time when it comes to running. Not a good ROI, not at all.

Dr. Phil wrote:

Wow he is a stunning display of mediocrity, he's too "buff" to run fast but not "buff or shredded" enough to complete with actual lifter.

Repeat after me: FUNCTIONAL FITNESS.

Imagine a runner, a bodybuilder and a crossfitter being chased by a lion.

- The crossfitter will sprint and then pull himself up on a tree

- the bodybuilder may be able to pull himself up the tree but will be caught before he gets there

- the runner will get to the tree with plenty of time to spare but will fail to pull himself up there

I will take this dude over Canova any day!!!!

Xfit_guy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

Repeat after me: FUNCTIONAL FITNESS.

Imagine a runner, a bodybuilder and a crossfitter being chased by a lion.

- The crossfitter will sprint and then pull himself up on a tree

- the bodybuilder may be able to pull himself up the tree but will be caught before he gets there

- the runner will get to the tree with plenty of time to spare but will fail to pull himself up there

How dumb are you, that you think a runner can't do a pull up? If you weigh 150 pounds and can't do a pull up, something is wrong with you.

Lions can climb trees.

How is being prepared to escape from lions by climbing trees "functional"? It's a complete fantasy except for a tiny number of people living in Africa, who, by the way, a more likely to be runners.

Anyone can make up a fantasy situation and claim that being prepared for it is functional. Imagine having to run 26.2 to report that your army has defeated the Persians. Now being a runner is more "functional." Of course that's no more likely to happen than being chased by a lion.

The funny thing is that since that original article on Brian, the scientific literature that has come out since agrees with his assertions.

I am most shocked at this guy's arrogance. I don't know every detail of training for say, rowing. So am I going to pretend that I know more about rowing than people who have coached / studied it for their entire lives? NO. What a jerk. This extends to his life as a whole I'm sure - a douchey cocky guy in every aspect.

Whelchel wrote:

The funny thing is that since that original article on Brian, the scientific literature that has come out since agrees with his assertions.

The question is always what you are training for. If your goal is to be active and reasonably fit, almost any active sport or exercise that you can stick with and enjoy will is better than nothing and is better than a sport you don't like and won't do regularly. If people find crossfit works to keep them fit and active, then good for them.

However, if you have a specific athletic goal, like being the best tennis player possible or running long distances in the shortest time possible, then you need to train with enough specificity to optimize your ability in that sport. Training without specificity will never optimize your abilities in a specific area.

What is cultish about crossfit is the way it has to run down other sports or forms of exercise and claim that crossfit training alone will optimize your abilities in other sports. That's a foolish assertion and not supported by scientific literature. If being part of the cult and being a crossfit true believer helps people stick with a training program then good for them, but they shouldn't be surprised when non-cult members refuse to drink the Kool-Aid. Just because crossfit works for some people and meets their goals doesn't mean that everyone else has the same goals or that everyone would enjoy and stick with crossfit.

What's crazy is that CrossFit doesn't produce better all-around athletes than plenty of other training methods.

You could take any sprinter/hurdler/football player and most will be able to lift bigger weights, beat them over every single distance, be more explosive, and when it comes down to it, beat the shit out of any xfitter in a fight straight-up.

Only dorky white people think CrossFit is going to get them ready.

Xfit_guy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

Ummmm, wha??? wrote:

No one is posting on a xfit website about how running 20 miles a week will make your deadlift stronger

Because it won't. Anything besides Sprints is a waste of time when it comes to running. Not a good ROI, not at all.

Everyone knows your a troll xfit guy so give it a rest. Most people on here are real runners who train to be the best they can be at, you guess it, 'running'.

What your meathead can't understand is that distnace runners do more than just run long and slow. Your so called studies of HIIT being better than LSD are true. Interval Training will get you into better shape than LSD ALONE. But what you fail to realize is that just HIIT ALONE will leave you burned out and injured. It is the combination of overdistance and inerval training that allows for the best trained distance runner. I hope your simple mind grasped that because that is very very simple explanation. It is just a tiny insight into the training of an elite distance runner, which i dont think your simple meathead mind could understand.

I thought this did a pretty good at explaining the 4 bsaic training zones to you and i thought the title was appropriate. How to incorporate different areas and when is another story though.

LSD as you so call it or slogging is actually not what we do. Most of us run a moderate tempo every day, i bet my pace/mile on runs is faster than you can actually run a mile. I could beat any xfitter in any running distance on anyday. I also dont look like a overgrown steroided meathead. I am a mid-distance guy 800-mile and am average size person but am ripped and strong as an ox from from the various circuit training, lifting, core, and pyometrics i do.

A well balanced training program that incoroporates training for strength, speed, endurance, power, and stamina will be the most effective.

What you really need to understand, and the point I am trying to force into your trollish meathead, is that us real runners do more than your so called LSD and train harder than you can imagine. So do us a favor and leave this message board for good because there are enough trolls on here already.

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Imagine a runner, a bodybuilder and a crossfitter being chased by a lion.

- The crossfitter will sprint and then pull himself up on a tree

- the bodybuilder may be able to pull himself up the tree but will be caught before he gets there

- the runner will get to the tree with plenty of time to spare but will fail to pull himself up there[/quote]

The runner would only need to out run the bodybuilder. The lion would catch him and start to eat him. The runner would be 20 miles away by the time the lion climbed the tree after the X-fitter to start his second course. Humans got to the top of the food chain because of their brains... not their brawn.

Does BM have a marathon time? I couldn't find any times (at any distance) that appeared to be his on athlinks.

RE: functional fitness

who the hell do you think chased down more animals and killed them for dinner back before even projectile weapons were used?

A. the guys who stayed at camp with logs on their shoulders doing squats

or

B. the guys who chased down the animals for days on end AKA "long, slow distance" runners

I think this is a record of some of his races.

Oh Brian wrote:

http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Brian&lname=Mackenzie&age=38

I think this is a record of some of his races.

lol those times are god awful.

Xfit_guy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

Repeat after me: FUNCTIONAL FITNESS.

Imagine a runner, a bodybuilder and a crossfitter being chased by a lion.

- The crossfitter will sprint and then pull himself up on a tree

- the bodybuilder may be able to pull himself up the tree but will be caught before he gets there

- the runner will get to the tree with plenty of time to spare but will fail to pull himself up there

Imagine a highly trained runner, bodybuilder, and cross fitter being held at proton-laser point by an alien race that demands they run a 5k as fast as they can. The highly trained runner will run it in sub 14 and live, the highly trained body builder will die of a heart attack somewhere around 900 meters, and the highly trained cross fitter will struggle to break 20 and be vaporized by the unimpressed aliens.

FUNCTIONAL FITNESS.

Btw, shouldn't Mackenzie have like, some results to go with his claims? There has not been a single world class time run by anyone who does Xfit. How could this possibly be? I thought the science supported getting SHREDDED. Do you think B-Mac would be interested in paying real runners to lie about doing Xfit to increase his credibility? If so, he should hit me up. I'll sell out for 10 grand.

Ummm, the runner would be ahead of the crossfitter who would be caught and eaten by the lion. Meathead.

Xfit_guy_the_real_one_1 wrote:

Dr. Phil wrote:

Wow he is a stunning display of mediocrity, he's too "buff" to run fast but not "buff or shredded" enough to complete with actual lifter.

Repeat after me: FUNCTIONAL FITNESS.

Imagine a runner, a bodybuilder and a crossfitter being chased by a lion.

- The crossfitter will sprint and then pull himself up on a tree

- the bodybuilder may be able to pull himself up the tree but will be caught before he gets there

- the runner will get to the tree with plenty of time to spare but will fail to pull himself up there