He was predicting low 43 this year and was fairly confident about it. We might see something from him, but probably late season after the OG.
He was predicting low 43 this year and was fairly confident about it. We might see something from him, but probably late season after the OG.
There is no reason for me to suspect that your suggestion that he was done when he left Hart is wrong. When I said "for now", I meant "until such time as I see a change in what I currently see as his weaknesses".
I haven't seen any such changes in the weaknesses that were first made obvious to me last year. He continues to be done, for the same reasons. His weaknesses are systemic, IMHO.
The only way he could ever come back would be if he resurrected himself as a different runner. One way he could do that would be to run a completely different event, as many have suggested.
I love the way you selectively edit. In good faith, I take my time to find some quotes, and post them, quotes such as "That career is over.", which are absolute, and are most certainly predictions about not only 11 months later, but about forever.
Wariner's elite 400 career was over last year. Wariner himself was only running 400's last year, so he was done, and will remain done, until such time as he switches events, if ever. The possibility exists for him to resurrect himself, but not in the 400.
Some of you guys on this board are really useless, and even worse than that, lazy.
Who's Jeremy Wariner?
aka TrollGeezer wrote:
. Wariner was actually done when he got rid of Hart. He decided running was a business, not a passion. There's no getting that back. He's been on an overall slide since he made that decision.
JW hasn't run a 43.XX since 2008, the same year he dropped Hart for Ford. Clearly breaking a programme established by a man that has forged some of the best 400m runners of all time.
Michael Johnson running so well for so long was no Fluke, Only Clyde Hart would have kept JW on top that long and JW didn't realize it until Ford couldn't produce a training regiment that provided him with the ability to throw down a 43 against Merritt in the final after running a 44.12 in the Qs.
Useless, lazy, troll. Yep that's sprintgeezer. Keep backpedaling, maybe they'll make that an Olympic sport someday and you won't have to lie about your bogus career as a "sprinter" anymore and you can actually achieve something. Wariner is the consummate 400 specialist. He's too slow - and getting older isn't helping him - for the 200 and can't develop into an 800 guy at this point in his career. His weaknesses are actually one weakness and has/have been for four years now. He lost his heart and decided he was entitled to something. Getting Clyde back helped but a band aid on the bullet wound but he was never the same after ditching him and has been in a backslide ever since. He can still break 45 this year but lost his dominance once and for all a long time ago, not last year, and not "for now."
WHITE MAN - SLOW wrote:
NO OTHER WHITE MAN will ever again win an Olympic sprint medal in the Olympics.
Caaater than a snaped pelvis wrote:
Troll of course.
Current chances:
Borlee Brothers, Martin Rooney, Christophe Lemaitre...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You're great! Thanks for the jokes.
:D
aka Trollgeezer wrote:
can't develop into an 800 guy at this point in his career.
BS.
He could go without running a meter under 50-second 400 pace all year and still crush every 800 man alive (except Rudisha and Jock) in a 400.
That should be long enough for him to base up. With the exception of Jock, the current top 800 guys in the US are really quite unathletic (1500-800 guys rather than our previous speed-oriented crop like Gray). Wariner would be the exception to this.
extenze wrote:
Wariner is a bum.
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I'll bet you wish you were as successfull as that "bum"
But, you never will be...
If you want to go by the stats, Wariner ran very well in 2004 aftger leaving Hart, running a number of 43s.
His decline began in 2009 after his return by Hart.
But why let the data get in the way of a good story line?
"For now, Wariner is done".
Said in 2011 after he shut down for injury.
This is your prediction that he was done for good?
Jesus Xist Sprintgeezer. Can't you see your own BS? Astounding
All this 800 stuff is pure nonsense. Wariner doesn't have the endurance to even run 1:50 right now. Maybe he could go 1:47 with a year of distance training, but what would be the point?
Koneko wrote:
All this 800 stuff is pure nonsense. Wariner doesn't have the endurance to even run 1:50 right now. Maybe he could go 1:47 with a year of distance training, but what would be the point?
I agree with this, which is why I think he should try the 200 if he wants to continue in t&f.
Although, as somebody else mentioned, he could do a 50-second 400 rather easily, which would make an 800 interesting...
Gallagher aka VenTARD--
Do you think that your perversions of exactly what I said will go unmet?
I POSTED exactly what I said. No matter how you selectively excerpt, it is all there for everybody to see, therefore your selective translations carry little weight, if any.
I said what I meant by that quote, and I showed how my having said it had absolutely nothing to do with any impression in my mind that he shut down for injury. I said that he shut down for systemic reasons--endocrine, age, fatigue, etc., that I didn't see getting reversed...NOT for injury reasons.
I know this is a ridiculous troll attempt, you guys think I'm easy--and to some extent I am--but not completely.
As I have done before, I won't continue to respond to you beyond this post, frivolous and vexatious troll.
[quote]Sprintgeezer wrote:
You are unbelievable.
You make wide ranging predictions, with several qualifiers, and then later claim you were incredibly accurate. And seem to believe your own nonsense. And whine like an I don't know what when someone calls you on it.
Gallagher--
You are a either a moron or a douche.
My predictions were NOT wide-ranging, they were NOT qualified, and I did NOT later claim that I was incredibly accurate. Like I said, your b.s. will NOT go unmet.
Either you have a serious reading comprehension difficulty, or you are a douche.
My bet is on the latter. Want more specificity? OK, you ARE a douche--not because you have proven me wrong in any way, or exposed me in any way, but because you just can't accept it when somebody is correct, or rather, more correct than yourself.
I am perfectly happy to acknowledge my failures, and have in fact done so many times on this board. No, I will not do the legwork searching this time, because I don't give a crap whether or not you believe me, and there is no honest discussion to be had with a douche.
Sprint.
You could use a serious dose of self knowledge.
Gallagher wrote:
Sprint.
You could use a serious dose of self knowledge.
Gallagher, you could use a douche, a watermelon and a large mallet.
Koneko wrote:
All this 800 stuff is pure nonsense. Wariner doesn't have the endurance to even run 1:50 right now. Maybe he could go 1:47 with a year of distance training, but what would be the point?
If you dont think Wariner could put 2 50sec 400s back to back then you're not sane. He could do it easily enough.
Professional Sprint Consultant wrote:
Koneko wrote:All this 800 stuff is pure nonsense. Wariner doesn't have the endurance to even run 1:50 right now. Maybe he could go 1:47 with a year of distance training, but what would be the point?
If you dont think Wariner could put 2 50sec 400s back to back then you're not sane. He could do it easily enough.
You do realize that would be a WR 800 right?
I want to respond to the "white man slow" who said " a white man will never medal in the sprints." First of all, have you heard of Christophe Lemaitre, the French Sprinter, who won the European Championships, is a mere 20 years old and finished 3rd in the Diamond League, Rome. He is the first non-African to go under 10 seconds (although I think this is incorrect since Pietro Mennea ran the 200 meters in 19.72. Mennea also held the record for the 150 (14.8) until Usain Bolt broke it! This is an average of .09/meter, which would extrapolate to a 9.98 for 100 meters.
Personally, I believe that Lemaitre has an excellent chance of medaling in the 200, where his PB is 20.37 and continues to improve each year.
While we are speaking of sprinters, do you consider the 100 Meter Hurdles a sprint? (most would concur that it is). I think it is safe to say that Liu Xiang is the clear favorite and the last time I checked Liu was Asian! Also, in the Womens 100 hurdles, the best in the world is Australian Sally Pearson. I would say that Sally is a shoo-in to medal in London.
So, while I agree, the sprints are dominated by those of African origin, it is arrogant and pompous to say that a white man or woman will not medal.
One more thing: Ever hear of Mitchell Watts from Australia? He is the favorite to win the long jump in London. This event has also been dominated by non-whites for many years, with the exception of a few such as Jonathan Edwards, the World Record holder in the Triple Jump.