ventolin^3 wrote:
moron
you offer drivel
f*ck off
ban this guy already...
ventolin^3 wrote:
moron
you offer drivel
f*ck off
ban this guy already...
I love how every thread that Ventolin contributes to just ends up with him yelling at everybody who doubts his calculator. Guy's got quite a temper.
For what it's worth, for the most part I do find his posts interesting but to speculate that Mutai could break the 10,000 WR off pure marathon training is ludicrous. I have no doubts he could go sub 26:30 with proper training for the event but to my knowledge Mutai's never even run a real world class HM time (though admittedly I don't think he's ever peaked for one).
Ventolin, I think your problem is you're using the NCAA tables to equate Mutai's 27:27. Those tables are designed for American athletes, obviously somebody who's spent their whole life living and training at altitude isn't going to be as affected by the lack of oxygen during the race as an American collegiate athlete would be.
ventolin^3 wrote:
Jurgis Rudkus wrote:but to speculate that Mutai could break the 10,000 WR off pure marathon training is ludicrousmoron
nothing about a wr was mentioned
posited was 26'10 - 26'20
This really is priceless. It is as if I wrote that Yenew Alamirew could run between 12:30 and 12:40 and somebody said, "Well, I don't think he's world record material," and I said, "Nothing about a world record was mentioned."
You're beyond stupid. Why didn't you write between 26:17.54 and 26:20 if that is what you meant?
MAPIV wrote:This really is priceless. It is as if I wrote that Yenew Alamirew could run between 12:30 and 12:40 and somebody said, "Well, I don't think he's world record material," and I said, "Nothing about a world record was mentioned."
moron
no one is speculating that kid is 12'30 - 12'40
try again
idiot
ventolin^3 wrote:
what part "off M training" your peabrain not comprehend ?
Wait, so marathon training is ideal for the 10,000? I always thought that training like a 10,000 meter runner was. Maybe that's why I never broke 31.
he ran 61'48 in last 1/2 on toughest elite course
I agree that this was one of the best marathons of all time and perhaps an indication he could cut it on the track. However, my point was we don't have a great idea of what Mutai can run for a half-marathon all-out since he's never tapered for one by itself. Obviously this is crucial to know if we're going to speculate about his 10K capabilities as there's quite a gap between 25 laps and 26.2 miles.
there is no discriminator mentioned in the tables -
chinese/eskimo/aborigine...
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The tables don't discriminate on the basis of race, but they do based on experience at altitude. From what I understand, the tables were made by comparing the sea level and altitude performances of athletes who may have never even lived/trained at altitude before. Somebody like Mutai, who has lived at high altitude his whole life will be less affected by altitude because his body has adapted to it, and will this have a smaller difference between his altitude and sea level time. For example if Runner A who lives at sea level races the Kenyan Runner B in Kenya and they tie, should these runners ever race at sea level it could be assumed that Runner A would fare much better.
Jurgis Rudkus wrote:Wait, so marathon training is ideal for the 10,000? I always thought that training like a 10,000 meter runner was. Maybe that's why I never broke 31
who gives a sh!t about 31'00
we are talking 26+
I agree that this was one of the best marathons of all time and perhaps an indication he could cut it on the track. However, my point was we don't have a great idea of what Mutai can run for a half-marathon all-out since he's never tapered for one by itself. Obviously this is crucial to know if we're going to speculate about his 10K capabilities as there's quite a gap between 25 laps and 26.2 miles
idiot
there are examples of geb/tergat who ran 10k/M in same year
look up previous posts
The tables don't discriminate on the basis of race, but they do based on experience at altitude. From what I understand...blah...
drivel
ncaa tables don't offer disclaimer
impress me moron
offer up caveat of the tables...
lol@tards.. wrote:
ban this guy already...
+1