Global warming deniers: read this and be humbled

gotta love some of the arguments the deniers trot out, such as: the earth is really big dude, man is not capable of hurting it in any way.

What ?!? If we burned down and or cut down every tree on the planet, which we COULD do if we chose, this wouldn't effect the planet and the life on it in anyway???

If all the nuclear capable countries of the world, built up their current nuclear weapon stockpiles 1000-fold, (which again, we have the resources and capability of doing so), and set them off simultaneously around the planet, under the oceans, in places where earthquakes are likely (Fault lines), etc, etc, what would THAT do to the planet and the life on it?? It would easily (of course) wipe out virtually all life, and completely change parts of the planet forever.

Do those examples show man's capability to wreak havoc on the planet, and more importunely, the life (ESPECIALLY OURS dumba$$es) that exists on it??

No one is saying that global warming will make earth disappear (duh!). They are saying that it will NEGATIVELY IMPACT life on the planet (pssst.... we are part of that life, remember guys).

(now whether or not global will lead to a *drastic* negative effect on our lives is another issue. But to counter this argument/question with: "the earth is really big dude, man is small. Do the math" is beyond mentally challenged)

The spring temperature event in the US was off the charts and unprecedented in recorded history. While not dispositive of global climate change being caused by humans, it is utterly ignorant and irresponsible to dismiss the event as having no meaning.

While skeptics cling to fake science and popular internet memes, the real science is moving forward and is startling.

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/study-carbon-dioxide-drove-ice-age-thaw

The idea that carbon dioxide follows climate events has been dismissed by a recent study that showed the opposite. The data showing CO2 lagging was all from antartic ice core samples. Samples from the rest of the planet show the opposit.

And there is no room for speculation about volcanoes when it comes to ocean acidification. There is no doubt in the scientific community that ocean acidification is due to human production of CO2 in the atmosphere. At the current pace, ocean acidification will reach levels not seen in 300 million years.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/03/ocean-acidification-peak/

Add to that chronic overfishing, and you have the potential for a massive worldwide food crisis. Ocean acidification has already been shown to be a cause of die offs in oyster populations in the NW.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2017961101_oceanacidification12m.html

Even if you let yourself get fooled into thinking that climate change is fiction, there is no escaping the issue of ocean acidification.

All true ^.

But you are ignoring the most important factor in this entire discussion. That is the current trend in America to exalt ignorance. Until this is changed there is little hope for collective intelligent action.

Precious Roy wrote:

The spring temperature event in the US was off the charts and unprecedented in recorded history.

Isn't that precious. Recorded history goes back to the days of Mesopotamia. Can you remind me of the temperatures in the US back then?

Don't you mean it was unprecedented in the last 150 years of this planet's 5,000,000,000 year history?

It is fun to blame the increase on man, though. We all know that the world has been warming since the end of the last ice age 20,000 years ago because of the evil fuel that man burned over the last 150 years.

Soft Landing wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

The spring temperature event in the US was off the charts and unprecedented in recorded history.

Isn't that precious. Recorded history goes back to the days of Mesopotamia. Can you remind me of the temperatures in the US back then?

Don't you mean it was unprecedented in the last 150 years of this planet's 5,000,000,000 year history?

It is fun to blame the increase on man, though. We all know that the world has been warming since the end of the last ice age 20,000 years ago because of the evil fuel that man burned over the last 150 years.

Case in point ^

Perhaps I should be glad you are ignorant. If the past 20,000 years truly did show a trend consistent with the last 150 years (1.4 degree F increase in 150 years) then today the average temperature on this planet would be above the boiling point of water. Might be a tad uncomfortable.

Yes, I am glad you are ignorant. Or at least that the facts do not square with your ignorance.

Summary Information

March 2012

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

National Climatic Data Center

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/summary-info/national/2012/3

Yes, but but... wrote:

Perhaps I should be glad you are ignorant. If the past 20,000 years truly did show a trend consistent with the last 150 years (1.4 degree F increase in 150 years) then today the average temperature on this planet would be above the boiling point of water. Might be a tad uncomfortable.

Yes, I am glad you are ignorant. Or at least that the facts do not square with your ignorance.

Oh yeah, the fact that they increased a large amount in a short period is definite evidence that the change is manmade is it? So how about the fact that from 1950 to 1980 the average temps were going DOWN while the amount of carbon dioxide being produced was going UP by massive amounts?

Sorry but a blip in the statistics does not a pattern make.

A scientist and a denier of global warming walk into a bar.

Denier: Bartender show me your strongest whiskey!

Bartender: This one here is 95% percent alcohol.

Denier: *slams down fist and leaves the bar in a hurry*

Scientist: You know, that’s the problem with these guys. You show them the proof and they still don’t buy it.

M.C. Confusing wrote:

So how about the fact that from 1950 to 1980 the average temps were going DOWN while the amount of carbon dioxide being produced was going UP by massive amounts?

You mean 1944 to about 1980. If you're going to blantantly cherry-pick your data points, you might at least get ones that support your argument.

M.C. Confusing wrote:

Yes, but but... wrote:

Perhaps I should be glad you are ignorant. If the past 20,000 years truly did show a trend consistent with the last 150 years (1.4 degree F increase in 150 years) then today the average temperature on this planet would be above the boiling point of water. Might be a tad uncomfortable.

Yes, I am glad you are ignorant. Or at least that the facts do not square with your ignorance.

Oh yeah, the fact that they increased a large amount in a short period is definite evidence that the change is manmade is it? So how about the fact that from 1950 to 1980 the average temps were going DOWN while the amount of carbon dioxide being produced was going UP by massive amounts?

Sorry but a blip in the statistics does not a pattern make.

And one more example pops up ^

Sorry, but there is a mountain of evidence supporting the theory of human caused climate change. If you are interested in something beyond ignorance go ahead and start reading some of the reports. If you are really ambitious try reading some of the underlying scientific papers. You can start here:

Or, you could point out a blip in the statistics and happily go about demonstrating that ignorance is indeed bliss.

(But try getting your dates right next time. You'll feel better about your ignorance)

M.C. Confusing wrote:

Oh yeah, the fact that they increased a large amount in a short period is definite evidence that the change is manmade is it? So how about the fact that from 1950 to 1980 the average temps were going DOWN while the amount of carbon dioxide being produced was going UP by massive amounts?

Sorry but a blip in the statistics does not a pattern make.

Did you just cite a carefully chosen (but poorly chosen) 30 year blip to try to negate the results of thousands of scientific studies?

Seriously?

OMFG

Science is dead ladies and gentlemen. All hail King Ignorance!

Oh Boo-Hoo, now lower my f&%king gas.

Finally broke a record from 1910, yep a big trend there. On the other hand I wouldn't trad this Marches weather for any other, it was fabulous! I wish for many more.

Humans aren't destroying the planet. We're just making it increasingly difficult to support our current levels of population with our current levels of consumption.

Over 20 years ago, we sun-seeking holidaymakers in England would fly south to the Mediterranean where we knew we would be guaranteed sunshine for the whole holiday.

Then we were told that within a decade, due to this global warming, Britain would be experiencing a Mediterranean type climate and gave out advice as to how to act in these coming climate conditions.

The sort of flowers and shrubs we should start growing in our gardens, advice on growing olive vines, orange groves and the like.

And, of course, the great news that we would never have to fly out of the country again to ensure good weather on our holidays - and anyway, the Mediterranean countries would now be far too hot and uncomfortable to visit at all.

In June 2012, not only am I still cultivating the same flowers and shrubs in my garden as before and certainly wouldn’t try growing olive vines - I am also flying to southern Spain to ensure I can holiday in the sun - something I certainly couldn’t guarantee back here in Britain.

So much for bloody global warming!