Girls
Saugus
FM
Saratoga
North Shore
Tatnall
Boys
Christian Brothers
American Fork
Arcadia
Southlake Carrol
FM
Girls
Saugus
FM
Saratoga
North Shore
Tatnall
Boys
Christian Brothers
American Fork
Arcadia
Southlake Carrol
FM
Saugus
Simi Valley
Renaldo Union
La Costa Canyon
FM
Arcadia
Trabuco Hills
Golden Valley
Rancho Cucamonga
Just saying, but SLC put 7 in before Cedar Park's #1 (Herbert).
Arcadia only put 4 in front of him @ Woodbridge.
I think SLC is definitely overlooked here if you are putting Arcadia in front of them.
Great ideas! So- called bias toward consistently top performing regions could also be mitigated by granting byes to the top two finishing teams from the previous year. With all the underclassmen on these teams, they don't change so significantly from one year to the next to make this unreasonable.Two years ago East Aurora came in 4th in NY and got no bid, though they beat both NE teams receiving auto bids, same course same day -- but FM and Toga took NY's top 2 spots, as usual. They then went to Oregon for the open race, and merged results with the championship race had them 11th overall.
watchout wrote:
funny wrote:Give NY 5 auto bids and then move the two remaining at-large bids to the highest ranking teams not Q'd automatically. That way, it's a bit easier to understand what is happening and who is getting a selection, and the best state on the girls' side is getting more bids. The guys' and girls don't need to be the same, and the selection process doesn't need to remain constant each year. Hell, it would be cool and add some drama if the region that performs best (according to some pre-determined metric) gets an additional auto bid the following year. that would spice things up a bit.
Or... combine NY and NE, leave the outstanding invites as at-large selections, and watch NY get even more teams to nationals on the girls side. :)
Alternatively, combine NY and the New England states (plus Massachusetts) and move NJ and PA to a "Mid-Atlantic" region with VA/DE/MD/DC/WV, watch the quality of girls teams improve and NY possibly gets even more teams to nationals on the girls side. As a potential bonus: widen the course, add in 3 more at-large invites to expand the field to 25, and consider allowing a max of 5 teams per region (instead of 4), though it should be rare that a region would get 5 spots (sorry Cali)
5 spots to NY is a bit too much. Pretty much every year, they need 3-4 spots. Only one year I can think of where they were remotely close to 5.
course looks to be sloppy - no rain at race time, but it is going to rain all night - that should hurt the southern californians. eg baxter.
Cali dreams wrote:
Isn't that where the true problem lies? For instance, South, Southwest and Southeast should be merged into two regions.
No offense, but you're an idiot. The SW teams have done very well at nationals. Since the regional qualifying meets started, look at how the SW teams have finished at NXN. Both auto qualifers have finished in the top 10 each of the last 3 years and the SW went 2-3 in 2007. The only off year was 2008. CA continues to get at-large bids and they continue to underperform. There are 2 regions that consistently run well at NXN: MW and SW. And guess which one didn't get an at-large bid? One at-large from the SW in 5 years, Cali has nine.
Why does Wesley Frazier run unattached?
agip wrote:
course looks to be sloppy - no rain at race time, but it is going to rain all night - that should hurt the southern californians. eg baxter.
Will be no problem for Baxter.
Look for the Davis girls to sneak into the top 5. Go Darts!
american fork has bombed in every year they've been 'favorites' or predicted to place high. just sayin
Pulling for Baxter on individual girls; FM girls continue to win.
Ryan should win boys; pulling for SL Carroll boys team; such a close race with CBA last year.
The best swimming tam will win today, based upon the weather forecast.
I'm pulling for a double win from South lake Carroll today! I wouldn't be surprised for the strong teams of NY doing really well and The guys is a toss up.
Girls
1 SLC
2 FM
3 Toga
Boys
1 SLC
2 CBA
3 NC
Antidote wrote:
I'm pulling for a double win from South lake Carroll today! I wouldn't be surprised for the strong teams of NY doing really well and The guys is a toss up.
Girls
1 SLC
2 FM
3 Toga
Boys
1 SLC
2 CBA
3 NC
I actually agree with your prediction. I think anyone not putting the SLC girls in the top 5 is insane.
I think the NXN south course has been underrated. I guess we will find out really soon.
havengald wrote:
1)Futsum Zeinasellassie
2) Tony Smoragiewicz
3) Anthony Armstrong
4) Sergio Gonzalez
5) Joseph Hardy
Great names.
Look for Frank Hardy to swing a top 20 while Chet Morton drops out by the 400m mark.
1. CBA
2. SLC
3. North Central
4. Arcadia
1. Montoya
2. Leingang
3. Ryan
4. Burcham
I agree that course always runs slow compared to every other race. Both races are going to be fantastic and exciting for both individual & team.
Girls
1 Baxter
2 Neale
3 Cain
4 Knight
5 Burda
Boys
1 Leingang
2 Ryan
3 Hardy
4 Montoya
5 Wharton/Burcham
only one guy, antidote, predicted wharton would be in the top 5
Baxter 19:17
Cain
Knight
FM 54
Carroll 198
Carnel 209
Why are times so slow compared to Footlocker every year especially this year?
Antidote wrote:
I agree that course always runs slow compared to every other race. Both races are going to be fantastic and exciting for both individual & team.
Girls
1 Baxter
2 Neale
3 Cain
4 Knight
5 Burda
Boys
1 Leingang
2 Ryan
3 Hardy
4 Montoya
5 Wharton/Burcham