I never met you nor corresponded directly with Hadd. But he certainly is not nobody to me. I read his long threads years after he wrote them, and indirectly, he's actually the reason I came to "letsrun" in the first place, as someone from another forum had highly recommended his advice.
I think I am not alone in saying that, through his many words (and there were many), he had a significant influence on me, and the way I think about training.
As great as the loss is to anonymous nobodies like me, your loss must be greater, and you have my deepest condolences.
My sincere sympathies to you. You may recall meeting me in Colorado. I am the guy whose accent was closest to John's!
I want to publicly endorse all that has been written on this thread. John was the greatest running coach I have known. His death has saddened me as if he was a family member.
Every step I have taken in eight years (and the steps of many that I coach) have been influenced by his knowledge and wisdom. He had an unsurpassed ability to communicate the physiology of distance running and to translate it to practical advice for the ordinary runner.
May you be strengthened and consoled in this difficult time by the thoughts of thousands who were honored by John's presence in their lives.
I am so sorry. While I too (along with many many others) have mourned John's passing, no one can remotely compare with your loss. You were undoubtedly preeminently special to John... he spoke so highly of you always.
Thank you so much for sharing him with his friends, students, colleagues, coachees, pen pals, and even strangers.
Here is a Maltese saying...
"Hadd ma jiehu xejn mieghu."
Translated, it means, "No one takes away anything with him." I found this appropriate because I know you and John always traveled very light. The reason this was easy for John (and I suspect you as well) is because, with you, he felt he had everything.
I had the pleasure of meeting you and John in Colorado. I would like to say how sorry I am for your loss. You obviously had such a special relationship. He always spoke with such joy when mentioning your life together.
Please take care,
Thanks for your thoughts. I remember you. The guy from Lubbock no? Remember sharing those pancake breakfasts at the cafe in Colorado :)
Very sweet and touching Jeh! And your Maltese is perfect! :)
Mrs Hadd. You see he made me a nobody too!
Thank you for your thoughts. If I remember correctly you are the one who had "a drawer of many things" no?
Carol, I never got to meet you or John face-to-face but I was a part of the private board with JEH, Tim, Jerry, Pete, CD, Woody and the others.
I share in saying how sorry I am about your loss. I was always amazed at how much John gave to each of us and I am pretty sure I can speak for all of us about how much he changed our lives.
Like so many of the others who have met and been coached by John, I, too, have started coaching following his training methods. For that I will be eternally indebted.
Thank you very very much.
JEH, Tim, Jerry, Pete, CD, Woody and the others may have a lot of stuff like this. I never get tired of reading Hadd's writings, but now that will be the only way to do it.
Just wanted to pass on my sympathies to the family and friends of John "Hadd" Walsh. I'm sure there are a huge number of people who read his guidelines and appreciated his words of wisdom. Thanks for what was, imo, the best explanation of why aerobic training is so necessary.
I exchanged some emails with John after I tried his system, which didn’t initially work for me, and he was kind enough to go through in some detail the errors I had made. I last contacted him at his yahoo email address in late 2008, but think he must have closed that down as there were no responses from 2009 onwards. I hadn't even realised he was from my home city of Glasgow until reading other posts.
So, in the spirit of sharing the wisdom of John to help others, please find attached below his advice for “ST types” wanting to run a good marathon.
Sorry for taking some time to get back to you... some other queries to deal with promoted by the Cabral/Hadd thread and just plain old life getting in the way.
Where to start? You've obviously got some useful talent there, and are someone I tend to class as "more-ST" as opposed to "more-FT". In other words, it looks like you do not have a high ability to create lactate (you are not an 800-1500 guy), and that your performances will get better as the distance lengthens (this keyboard sucks, so excuse any typos - it's a borrowed machine...).
Yes, in the absence of intense training your HRmax will fall. I had one athlete whose HRmax dropped from 196 to 182 (over a 5-year span of too much attention to marathon training). So always keep some intensity in the week.
Yes, there are 2 thresholds (you must have got good advice), we call them LT (lactate threshold) and LTP (lactate turnpoint). The former relates to and correlates best with your Mpace, and the latter (aka: OBLA or MLSS) correlates better with HM/10k/5k performances.
My whole long thread from 2003 was to encourage people to move the LT. Phase IIa (not yet discussed online) works at improving LTP.
ST's like yourself have to be wary not to do too much sub-LT work without a healthy dose of LTP and faster work. In your case, it would certainly be true that long slow running makes long slow runners.
The first thing you want to do is develop the ability to run 45-60 mins at ~140-144 and see the pace is steady (ie: you do not have to slow to stop the HR rising).
However, you should also include some faster work every week. This can either be in the form of 6x150m AFAP (As Fast As Possible - without doing any damage) with a long-ish recovery 3-5 mins WALK. And you can do these after an easy run.
Or you can plug some short quick aerobic capacity work into your week like 8-10 x 300m (at slightly faster than 3k pace) with 100m jog in 45 secs. (So this is a continuous run).
At the same time, go long on sunday... maybe alternate 1hr45, 2hrs, 2hr15 (repeat)
So you might get a week like this:
Tue: 8-10 x 300 with 100m jog in 45s (jog 8 mins) 10k at 135-140 HR
Fri: 3x20 mins building to 60 mins straight at 140-144 HR with steady pace
Sun: Rotate Sundays as above - look for hilly routes (1hr45, 2hrs, 2hr15 (repeat))
All else easy at 65-70% HRmax and build up mileage to a good level (depending on work, etc, and target event)
I like to see ST's get in 3-5k shape before going for marathons. And that would generally mean that to be in sub-2:25 shape you have to get in sub-15:30 / 5k shape FIRST... then just add on Phase IIb training which aims at improving fat-burning and last 6-8 weeks pre-marathon.
Hope this gives you some ideas of where to start.
Feel free to write back if you have other questions.
I hope to expand on some of the topics here on the Cabral/Hadd thread... but it might take some time to get there.
Keep training, it sounds like there is more to come off that Mtime.
Thanks for writing,
Yes - that was me. I recall those pancake breakfasts and I probably ate as many pancakes as all of you combined :)
Farwell running brother...... new roads to explore for you.
What an amazing memory you have!! Yes, I had (and still have) a Drawer of Many Things.
I hope that you are well.
He Hadd a good run.
Clearing out some favorites on my bookmarks page and came across some Hadd training threads and links...
Brings me to this page. I can still feel the shock and sadness I felt when seeing this thread 2.5 years ago.
Hadd is still greatly missed and I only met the man 1 time! I just read all 5 pages again to take in everyone's account of personal interaction. What a great man he was and may his words continue to live on.
He Hadd a good run.
Sounds like a great guy.
Thanks for bumping this... I just heard the news on that other thread about LR posters who have passed away. Yes, I know it was 9 years ago, but to me it's fresh. But he made a difference in my life. That needs to be said.