Monaco Men's 5000m entry list

Lagat will beat the pants off Solinsky and Rupp, as he always does. When are you guys gonna stop dreaming.

you serious?

The 1500 pacers have been going out at ridiculous paces over and over again, nothing close to even pace. 1:53's okay for 800m (not that anyone's come close to 3:46 for mile in years), but why not go out in 56/7 instead of 54? Then what is the point in going from 1:53 to 2:54 or slower, as has been typical? In that case, why not just do 58s the whole race and let the kick be better?

1 12:49 FARAH

2 12:49 LAGAT

3 12:50 MERGA

4 12:50 ALAMIREW

5 12:51 RUPP

6 12:51 KOECH

7 12:54 SOLINSKY

8 12:54 BEKELE

9 12:56 KIPCHOGE

10 12:58 KUMA

I hate Brits wrote:

That's why back then you saw guys dropping 12:4x's and 3:2x's. What would happen is the rabbit would drop and the leader would put down a surge just maintain to the end. Bam 3:27. Bam 12:45.

nonsensical. there are only 20 sub 12:50 5000m times on record. the only documented 12:45 is Komen's.

KBekele 5

Gebrselassie 4

Komen 4

the remaining 7 are "one offs" like Tergat, Sihine, Kipchoge*. Kipchoge's 12:51 from last year is the fastest 5000m in three years.

I think it is very unlikely this will be an extraordinarily fast race - you put that many egos in a race and no one is going to want to lead and take the chance of blowing up just a month before worlds.

I'm thinking the winner is 12:54 and 5th place is 13:03 or something like that.

Very fast races are time trials now - just one guy and a bunch of rabbits.

Only way this is a fast race is if they pay a rabbit to go out at wr pace and tell the whole field that he is free to stay in the race if he wishes.

It will likely be fast and tactical - fast because of pacers through 3KM, then it will slow during 4th KM and pick up to something sub 2:28 for final K. Very tactical over last K and finishing around 12:53 or so. I am projecting splits of:

1KM - 2:33

2KM - 2:35 - 5:08

3KM - 2:35 - 7:43

4KM - 2:42 - 10:25

5KM - 2:28 - 12:53

1st - Farah

2nd - Lagat

3rd - Solinsky

Rupp is 5th or 6th and goes sub-12:57!

rupp is peaking bigtime.

solinsky is having his troubles.

farah is on a roll now for more than a year.

10 africans can go sub 13 like rupp and sol.

a toss up really all round except farah is a weak favorite.

the expectation is that one of the africans is peaking nicely and takes it from farah.

look for a 12:50 plus or minus a couple of seconds.

and one or two of the americans to sub 13.

i'll give rupp 3rd place here. pr and near ar.

A bold prediction and you may not be far off...!

can this be watched anywhere?

universal sports tv 8 00 EST

Looking at my predictions, they seem almost too good to be realistic myself, but then I look at the results from Rome.

http://www.diamondleague-rome.com/en/Live-StartlistsResults/Overview/5000m-M/

Six men under 13:00. It was two months ago. I really have no doubt that the winning time will improve by 3-6 seconds from 12:54. Too many egos, yadda, but isn't there gonna be three rabbits? I just can't see it becoming too slow. Lagat wants that PR -- I think he would actually be up for pushing the pace to get it. I am pretty confident he'll be within 1-3 seconds if he doesn't get it, and also that Farah will have enough to win.

Ripped wrote:

It will likely be fast and tactical - fast because of pacers through 3KM, then it will slow during 4th KM and pick up to something sub 2:28 for final K. Very tactical over last K and finishing around 12:53 or so. I am projecting splits of:

1KM - 2:33

2KM - 2:35 - 5:08

3KM - 2:35 - 7:43

4KM - 2:42 - 10:25

5KM - 2:28 - 12:53

1st - Farah

2nd - Lagat

3rd - Solinsky

Rupp is 5th or 6th and goes sub-12:57!

As I posted in another thread, this is what Solinsky posted on Twitter:

ChrisSolinsky Chris Solinsky

@Flotrack Well from what I heard 7:42 thru 3K with a 3rd Rabbit to 1200 to go. So quite fast, but perfect!

This thread is better, relatively troll free.

Weather forecast is nearly perfect. Was in the 60s, and probably won't get higher than 75, probably overcast as there will be some minimal light showers. Beats the hell out of the 100 degree weather we had in Chicago yesterday!

Sub 12:50 is indeed a big deal, and I'd say there's probably less than 50% chance of it happening. Nevertheless, I'm still hopeful to see a couple at 12:48-49. I would put big, big money on there being at least one at 12:51 though. Anyone predicting 12:53 to be safe, well how boring is that? I hope they're wrong. I'd love to see any American or Mo Farah break 12:50, but I definitely see Mo and Lagat being the favorites. Alamirew could have a breakthrough too. I'd probably revise my prediction for Rupp to 12:52 at best, which would still be pretty incredible.

Oh wow, in progress.

http://mobilehelpers.glogster.com/watch-iaaf-diamond-league-monaco-2011-live-stream/

Now if they would stop f-ing with the jumpers and focus on the race...

So that was weird. Mo and Bernard as expected, but too slow in the middle. They could totally have run faster, but still new records for both Mo and Bernie.

I missed the beginning, they said Rupp went down hard, couldn't tell if he was still in race. Solinsky seemed to have been pushed inside the rail and dropped out. Shouldn't he have just kept running and let the officials sort it out?

Sir Lance-alot wrote:

marmite wrote:

After Paris and Birmingham my money is on Farah winning this in a new British record. If he's there with 400 to go then no one can live with the pace he can lay down on the last lap, with the exception of K. Bekele, who isn't running.

Um, ever heard of Bernie Lagat?!?

;-)