SERIOUSLY, PLEASE STOP SAYING RUPP HAS A LEGITIMATE CHANCE AT MEDALLING AT WORLD'S 5K.

^^^AGREE

An American seems to finaly have some sort of chance of medaling at WC's and everyone has to knock him down. First, you ask why Americans don't have balls. Now that Rupp has the balls to double at WC's and might have a chance to medal in both events (more so in the 10k) you say he's an idiot for doubling and believing in himself. He didn't have a kick, now he has one. He didn't have a chance a few years ago, now he does. Support your best American 10k/5k runner (this year) and see if he medals. Hope Solinsky gets a chance in 5k too. Maybe effing pu$$ies like those that talk $hit are the reason American runners can never think straight. Everyone just seems to be putting them down no matter what. Grow some balls and support your fellow American and risk being wrong than trying for a sure thing on some other countries doped up runners.

I am not saying he will need that kind of a time to get a top 6 spot. I am saying he will need to have run that fast before he will be physically capable of running with the guys who can. If the race is won in 13:15 you can bet the last part will be an all-out insane fest and only the best on the world will make it to the podium. As I said, he is highly talented, but, not quite there yet. Give him a few years. Remember, people like the current world record holder are 1 in 7 billion.

Rupp has a legitimate chance to medal in the 5k, seriously.

Rupp has a legitimate chance at a medal at Worlds in the 10km. I think he is gunning for a medal this year, and I think he's going to get it. And I think Farah will get the gold. I'm calling Rupp for the bronze, though.

In the 5km, I don't think he'll get a medal, but he has a legitimate shot at making the final and being in the top half, as do Lagat and Solinsky.

RUPP HAS A LEGITIMATE CHANCE AT MEDALLING AT WORLD'S 5K.

RUPP HAS A LEGITIMATE CHANCE AT MEDALLING AT WORLD'S 5K.

RUPP HAS A LEGITIMATE CHANCE AT MEDALLING AT WORLD'S 5K.

During my 20 mile easy run today, anytime I saw another runner yelled "RUPP HAS A LEGITIMATE CHANCE AT MEDALLING AT WORLD'S 5K." It was 2 hours of nonstop fun.

ryan foreman wrote:

He just proved he can. If Baus can do close to what Rupp did yesterday, than Baus is just an idiot for not entering the 5000M and trying for a place on the team.

Not that I don't basically agree with you. Nobody should have expectations of Rupp medaling in Daegu.

[quote]Gebrucilassie wrote:

In a fast race, Rupp can't close in 1:52 any more than Baus can close in 1:54. Just hope for a slow pace and a miracle instead of spouting all this unrealistic talk.[quote]

Yes that was impressive, but will he be able to do that after a prelim. History has pointed to that being more of the issue. Still would love to see him do it. BUT I'm still sticking to my original guess.

livelikeaballer wrote:

Rupp has a legitimate chance at a medal at Worlds in the 10km. I think he is gunning for a medal this year, and I think he's going to get it. And I think Farah will get the gold. I'm calling Rupp for the bronze, though.

In the 5km, I don't think he'll get a medal, but he has a legitimate shot at making the final and being in the top half, as do Lagat and Solinsky.

Why the hell are people still talking about Rupp's chances in the 10k to refute the OP?

This is about Rupp's chances in the 5k and he has no legitimate chance. Like another poster said, he has a chance but it is a slim to none chance.

will wrote:

I am not saying he will need that kind of a time to get a top 6 spot. I am saying he will need to have run that fast before he will be physically capable of running with the guys who can. If the race is won in 13:15 you can bet the last part will be an all-out insane fest and only the best on the world will make it to the podium. As I said, he is highly talented, but, not quite there yet. Give him a few years. Remember, people like the current world record holder are 1 in 7 billion.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that Galen Rupp will need to have run under 12:50 before he will be capable of running with the top six runners in the 2011 WC 5k. Do you really think Rupp needs to have a faster PR than all but at most three runners in the field (Bekele, Sihine, and Kipchoge) just to get top six? Why on earth would you think this?

I talked to Rojo today who was in Kenya for USAs and he said something along the lines of "Rupp's going to medal" or "Rupp's got a good shot at medalling."

I told him about this thread and his first response was, "what about the 10k?"

The 10k is his best chance. Lagat is in the 5000. Makes it harder right off the bat. Solinsky beat Rupp as well. Makes it harder. The great thing about Worlds is there are only 3 Kenyans and 3 Ethiopians in the race. Not all of them are going to have a good day. Birmingham was similar in some ways in that the field was limited with no Kenyan runners. Thus it's a bit easier to finish 2nd or 3rd but Rupp and Farah crushed Merga.

As for being a medal favorite at 10,000m, I guess it's how you define "favorites". Will he be a top 3 betting favorite for a medal? No. Farah has to be put ahead of him. I'm going to put one guy from Kenya and at one from Ethiopia as well ahead without knowing the team. But he is very, very close.

Worldwide the track does not seem as strong this year. I wonder if a guy like Geoffrey Mutai is running the 10,000m Trials. In the old days he'd be looking for gold in Daegu, now he's probably training for a fall marathon but I don't know anything one way or the other.

And in this other thread on Rupp

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4131767

someone said Lagat closed in 51.7 in a 12:59 race. I called bs on it but the guy was right. Here is what I wrote:

I went and tried to verify this as I thought it was bs.

I found Lagat running 12:59 in 2005 when he beat the World Champ Limo. His last lap was 53.41

http://www.letsrun.com/2005/homepage0905.php

But then I saw Lagat ran 12:59 in 2006 as well.

His last lap was "sub 52" so you are right:

http://www.letsrun.com/2006/lagatwins.php

wejo wrote:

The great thing about Worlds is there are only 3 Kenyans and 3 Ethiopians in the race. Not all of them are going to have a good day.

With Bahrain and Qatar likely much more than 6 Africans in the field

Wejo, thanks for the insight. As we approach the WCs I would like to get an assessment from LetsRun about the East African competition. From what I've seen over the past couple years, there doesn't seem to be anyone emerging from East Africa that is truly great in the mold of K Bekele. Or they are focused on the marathon or the middle distance races.

I don't expect Rupp to medal. But then I can't help but wonder. If not Rupp, who then? The competitors in the Prefontaine 10000M?

Wow, I got wejo to post on a thread of mine, plus a got a 100+ thread going last week. I'm doing pretty good!

SERIOUSLY, PLEASE STOP USING "MEDAL" AS A VERB :)

right. athletes WIN a medal. they do NOT medal.

Is it time for school to start yet?

Excellent post. I think that sort of hesitation was warranted when Ritz ran 12:56; Ritz ran dead even splits the whole way, while the rest of the field burned out trying to run 12:40 pace. But after Solinsky's close at USAs and Rupp's finish over Merga, there's no reason to believe they can't run the type of race that would lead to a medal. Solinsky closed a 5K in sub-4, Rupp closed one in 4:00 in a 13:06 race (faster than or comparable to most championship races) with a 54 second last lap. I agree that Rupp is definitely an outside shot (at best) for a medal at the 5K; he's got Lagat, Farah, and Solinsky to contend with, along with all of the top Ethiopians and Kenyans. There's too much depth for anyone but Lagat to be seen as a shoe-in. But Rupp's a 10K runner, and there aren't many guys at all who I'd say have a clear advantage over him in that event: just Farah and Bekele (if he runs and is in shape). There's one thing that Rupp has consistently shown in the past several months, and that's that he finishes RIGHT behind Farah. In pretty much every race, it's Farah, then Rupp right behind him. But now Farah's set himself up to be the favorite or the co-favorite for Worlds. And if Rupp can keep running smart races like he has been, and keeps up (or improves) his current form, he can run with anyone in the world. In my mind, he should be considered one of the favorites to medal in the 10K.

pr100 wrote:

SERIOUSLY, PLEASE STOP USING "MEDAL" AS A VERB :)

Why? It's a perfectly valid literary device. Check out anthimeria:

Verbing is the layman's way to express this idea, but, technically is not a literary description of this trick.

will wrote:

I am not saying he will need that kind of a time to get a top 6 spot. I am saying he will need to have run that fast before he will be physically capable of running with the guys who can. If the race is won in 13:15 you can bet the last part will be an all-out insane fest and only the best on the world will make it to the podium. As I said, he is highly talented, but, not quite there yet. Give him a few years. Remember, people like the current world record holder are 1 in 7 billion.

I understood what you were saying. What I am saying is that except for Bekele (if he runs), Sihine (if he runs), and Kipchoge (if he runs), no one else in the field will have a sub-12:50 PR. You're setting an unfairly high standard for Rupp that you would never set for Merga or Alamirew or Lagat (Gold medal with a 12:59 PR), or even Mottram (who has a Worlds bronze and a 12:55 PR). A sub-12:50 PR is absolutely not necessary to get top 6.

chauncey wrote:

You're setting an unfairly high standard for Rupp that you would never set for Merga or Alamirew or Lagat (Gold medal with a 12:59 PR), or even Mottram (who has a Worlds bronze and a 12:55 PR). A sub-12:50 PR is absolutely not necessary to get top 6.

Actually, I only spoke to Rupp's case because the thread is about Rupp. Don't put words in my mouth or ascribe your opinions to my posts as if they were mine.