CHRIS SOLINSKY: I'm a competitor, Going for Gold in 2011 and 2012

But Carl Lewis is retired. Been retired since 97 I think. He's not a legitimate medal threat in 2012.

Lyndell wrote:What the USA needs is - a pardon the cliche - Carl Lewis going for the Gold in the middle distances in 2012.

I think he meant "the USA needs a middle distance runner with Carl Lewis' tenacity at 2012 Olympics." That's the reference Solinsky quote "Going for the gold" evokes.

Well there is always this wrote:

Should the (American) LRC crowd wish that all the top Americans had the same kind of attitude as Solinsky? Absolutely.

Really? You wish top American's had the same kind of attitude as Solinsky? Accuse fellow American coaches of ploys? Jog in during an NCAA team championship, getting passed by like 20 people within 20 meters of the finish line? Start whining about the guy who just beat you out of an Olympic spot?

Open you're eyes. Solinsky is not the infallible American god you make him out to be. He will be held accountable for his actions just like any other less golden top American athlete.

take off the superhero goggles wrote:

Well there is always this wrote:

Should the (American) LRC crowd wish that all the top Americans had the same kind of attitude as Solinsky? Absolutely.

Really? You wish top American's had the same kind of attitude as Solinsky? Accuse fellow American coaches of ploys? Jog in during an NCAA team championship, getting passed by like 20 people within 20 meters of the finish line? Start whining about the guy who just beat you out of an Olympic spot?

Open you're eyes. Solinsky is not the infallible American god you make him out to be. He will be held accountable for his actions just like any other less golden top American athlete.

Put on your reading glasses dude. And while you are at it you might want to check to see that your brain is functioning.

Superhero?

Infallible god?

I'm pretty sure we were talking about the attitude expressed by, "I'm a competitor, Going for Gold in 2011, 2012". Everything else is sh!t you've made up in your own pathetic mind and tried to project onto others.

And yes, we should wish all of our top runners thought that qualifying for the US team is not the real goal but that racing to win in WCs and OGs is.

Title of thread remnds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoMmbUmKN0E&feature=youtube_gdata_player

thank you

Is this really true? Who besides Lagat is moving up from the 1500 with a real shot of medaling in the 5k? Before El G, it had been 80 years since someone pulled off the 1500/5000 double in the olympics. What 1500 runners are a threat to Solinsky right now? I don't buy the argument that the 10k is less competitive than the 5k. At the world stage, talent will always find its way to the top. The east african countries are going to show up big in the 5k and 10k and it's going to take a remarkable performance to win a medal in either event.

Chris has been a 5k runner for most of his career and he's gotten so much better in the past few years, why not stick to his guns and see what he's capable of in a world championship? It's the distance he has the most experience at. He has run 12:55! People keep talking about the 26:59 as if it's far and away the best performance of his career, but 12:55 is just as good. In fact, according to the 2011 IAAF tables it's exactly the same, and he ran that 12:55 in tough competition, whereas the 10k was a beautifully rabbited race that he took over in the final 800.

I'm not particularly against Chris running a 10k in the WC's or Olympics, but I still don't see why everyone thinks that's a better choice. Especially if he doesn't think it's a better choice.

Sometimes a dog can change his spots, people do change and maybe since then Solinsky have seen the error of his ways and he could be a better and more mature athlete. By the way are you going to make the USA team for the 2011 Worlds or do you just like throwing stones at athletes who are doing what you wish you could do?

Who cares what you think d3. You don't even think before you speak. You just said he has more experience in the 5000m but with less experience and in his debut at 10000m he laid down a performance equal to his best 5000m (where he been running for years).

So do you see the error of your logic?

NoStoneThrowing wrote:

Sometimes a dog can change his spots, people do change and maybe since then Solinsky have seen the error of his ways and he could be a better and more mature athlete. By the way are you going to make the USA team for the 2011 Worlds or do you just like throwing stones at athletes who are doing what you wish you could do?

Yeah, maybe one day he will be as mature as Rupp, who gets nothing but crap for not looking like Solinsky.

That 10k was set up perfectly for him, he didn't have to make any tactical decisions or face any other guys who were ready to run sub 27 that day. Sure it was his first 10k, but it's not like he was under trained for it, he does the big miles and strength work. So he ran his first 10k, he was well prepared, and everything went right. It wasn't about experience or race savvy, it was purely a measure of his fitness and physiological capabilities. It was a remarkable performance, but I don't think the fact that it was is debut necessarily means that he would have run any faster had he run it again later in the season.

So to break it down:

1. There are 2 events he can compete in, the 5k and the 10k.

2. He competed in each event last year while healthy, fit, and facing good conditions (pace, weather, etc.)

3. The best time(s) he ran for the each are considered equivalent relative to the rest of the world.

4. He has significantly more race experience in the 5k.

THEREFORE

I think it wise for him to run the 5k

It makes sense that plenty of people will disagree with my assumptions and come to different conclusions. It's quite possible those people are right, (that's the point of having a discussion) but there's no error in my logic.

SolidDarkhorse wrote:

Stop hating. Chris Solinsky mindset is if you're not going for the win then why lace up your spikes.

His MOUTH says this. He's never even been in a position to go for gold, so he should at least make a final before chirping a statement that only a Bob Kennedy should make. A HS JV runner could say the same thing- so saying it proves zero. I don't mind Solinsky saying it- but it's ignorant for you idiots to make it a feather in his cap. Everyone has a mouth.

ttc

So true everyone has a mouth and it's time to shut yours because the trash your spitting is stinking up the air.

Why wouldn't Chris Solinsky run the 10000m on the first day of USA Championships? He would be a fool not to have a back up World spot in case something goes wrong later in the meet with the 5000m. He could get tripped or it could so slow that it let other's in the race and don't make top 3.

In a T&F article today it states Rupp is ready for anything and is ready to run a pb if he has too regardless of the pollen count.

So who do you think wins the Rupp vs Solinsky vs. Tegenkamp 10000m battle later today?

Ready2Rumble wrote:

ttc

So true everyone has a mouth and it's time to shut yours because the trash your spitting is stinking up the air.

Why wouldn't Chris Solinsky run the 10000m on the first day of USA Championships? He would be a fool not to have a back up World spot in case something goes wrong later in the meet with the 5000m. He could get tripped or it could so slow that it let other's in the race and don't make top 3.

In a T&F article today it states Rupp is ready for anything and is ready to run a pb if he has too regardless of the pollen count.

So who do you think wins the Rupp vs Solinsky vs. Tegenkamp 10000m battle later today?

You're really stupid. The 5000 is roughly 24 hours after the 10,000. If he runs the 10,000 hard and doesn't make it, he will NOT recover in time to make the 5000.

It's his decision as to what he will or will not run; however, you are so stupid you don't even know the extent of your lame brain. IF he did run the 10000m and didn't make the team (why wouldn't he?), wouldn't whatever caused him to not make the 10000m fresh also affect him in the 5000m fresh?

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Ready2Rumble wrote:

It's his decision as to what he will or will not run; however, you are so stupid you don't even know the extent of your lame brain. IF he did run the 10000m and didn't make the team (why wouldn't he?), wouldn't whatever caused him to not make the 10000m fresh also affect him in the 5000m fresh?

That makes perfect sense to me! Any response hennyyoungman?

Ready2Rumble wrote:

It's his decision as to what he will or will not run; however, you are so stupid you don't even know the extent of your lame brain. IF he did run the 10000m and didn't make the team (why wouldn't he?), wouldn't whatever caused him to not make the 10000m fresh also affect him in the 5000m fresh?

Listen, moron, you're the idiot who started talking about insurance policies. THIS IS THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP TRIALS, you moron. The point you cannot comprehend is that this insurance policy you advocate is no insurance policy at all. What a moron. Yes, if he cannot make the 10,000 fresh this is not a good sign for the 5000. It's a matter of which race he prefers, not insurance policies. Learn something kid.

Your stupidity knows no end. You boldly stated that why risk running the 10000m and not make the team and jeopardize making the 5000m team.

Put your crack pipe down and realize you spoke without thinking clearly. If couldn't make the 10000m fresh then he would have a hard time making the 5000m fresh. You're such a stupid troll.