NCAA 800!! Who you got?

If Symmonds had another year of eligibility and could use it now and run another season for his college team, he would have won the national championship weeks ago....in Division III.

Robbie Andrews for the win.

death by achilles tendinosis wrote:

Our collegiate runners have simply passed up our Salazar-trained professionals this year. All that excessive Salazar mileage, and neither Wheating or Symmonds is competitive any more. Watching the video from Pre, Wheating's kick didn't gain on a single runner. About the only person he passed was the fast-fading Symmonds. Salazar killed their speed.

Coached by Salazar? How'd you come by that? Salazar has nothing to do with their coaching.

death by achilles tendinosis wrote:

Here's a thought: Where would Andrew Wheating finish if he had another year of eligibility? Where would Nick Symmonds?

Our collegiate runners have simply passed up our Salazar-trained professionals this year. All that excessive Salazar mileage, and neither Wheating or Symmonds is competitive any more. Watching the video from Pre, Wheating's kick didn't gain on a single runner. About the only person he passed was the fast-fading Symmonds. Salazar killed their speed.

Meanwhile, the collegiate kids rock. If Primm, Martin, Andrews, Greer, Loxsom, and Jock all make it to the finals, it will be harder to pick than the Kentucky Derby.

Gun to my head, I have to go with the kick and competitive spirit of Andrews. As for Wheating and Symmonds, I don't think Symmonds would get out of the heats, and Wheating would finish fifth, behind Andrews, Martin, Primm, and Greer.

dude, what are you talking about? yes it is an impressive year, but wheating and symmonds would win. You can make a decent case for andrewscause he beat wheating once, although wheating didnt get into form until the summer. Bt there is nothing there to suggest that any of those other guys have a legit shotat beating them. Yes they have run great times but they are not on that level. come on.

death by achilles tendinosis wrote:

Here's a thought: Where would Andrew Wheating finish if he had another year of eligibility? Where would Nick Symmonds?

Our collegiate runners have simply passed up our Salazar-trained professionals this year. All that excessive Salazar mileage, and neither Wheating or Symmonds is competitive any more. Watching the video from Pre, Wheating's kick didn't gain on a single runner. About the only person he passed was the fast-fading Symmonds. Salazar killed their speed.

Meanwhile, the collegiate kids rock. If Primm, Martin, Andrews, Greer, Loxsom, and Jock all make it to the finals, it will be harder to pick than the Kentucky Derby.

Gun to my head, I have to go with the kick and competitive spirit of Andrews. As for Wheating and Symmonds, I don't think Symmonds would get out of the heats, and Wheating would finish fifth, behind Andrews, Martin, Primm, and Greer.

You do know Wheating is still coached by Lanana, right?

And Symmonds is coached by another guy at the Oregon Track Club.

Salazar only coaches some 5k/10k/marathon people.

And it's not like Wheating and Symmonds have been training to peak at the NCAA's.

its based on who won the quarterfinals heats

There were 6 quarterfinal heats (3 from east and 3 from west)

So the 6 winners are added to the heats first Snake style based on the time they won with.

then again for the 2nd place finishers

then again for the 3rd place finishers

then the remaining at-large are added snake style.

1. Andrews - Still got that crazy kick

2. Jock - He looked great in the semi's and held on strong through the finish. Will be leading until Andrews gets him in the last 30 meters or so.

3. Greer - Nice kick as well. Totally made Primm look like a nobody in the final 50 meters.

4. Loxsom - Looked strong and had a very nice finish.

5. Brown - Don't know too much about him but had a great run to finish right behind Jock for the second fastest prelim time.

6. Kemboi - Ran fast and qualified on a good prelim time.

7. Primm - Didn't look good at all. Might have run too fast earlier and used up his race strength.

8. Martin - Barely qualified on time. Looked nothing like the same guy who was beat Jock and the Big West Conference Meet.

PRIMM. #1

JOCK... #2

GREER. #3

Prediction

1. Andrews- 1:46.21

2. Jock- 1:46.51

3. Greer- 1:46.65

4. Primm- 1:46.67

After watching the prelims...

Andrews and Jock both looked good. Martin didn't look so good.

I'll go with:

1 Andrews

2 Jock

3 Primm

4 Greer

Looks may be deceiving.......

At least with Jock in the final, you know the pace will be on (is he the new Johnny Gray). Andrews can sit last and still come through the quater in 51.5, which is plenty quick enough.

Andrews running 1:46.99 off a 54.5 first lap with a sub 26 last 200 maks him very hard to beat (I know Greer ran similar spilts). I'm picking Andrews to win in 1:45.08 with Greer trailing him the whole way for 2nd.

Depends on the race, a slower pace plays into Robbie Andrews and flat fast pace maybe a Loxsom, Primm or Greer. Not sure about Charles Jock, seems like a good runner also.

I'll say Andrews in a slower 1:47.20, Greer and Jock around 1:47.5 for 2nd and 3rd

People of letsrun get it together. All these predictions, someone is bound to get lucky. You have to predict how the race will be run before you can predict a winner. Which some of you understand. Whoever felt the need to bring up how these group of guys could beat Andrew W and Nick S is a bit special, and not in a good way. I think Mr. Wheating is trying to come into form for the WC as well as Mr. Symmonds. Okay back to the final it is going to be a great race and it will come down to two things. 1)Who shows up on race day. 2)How the race plays out(fast pace, slow pace). Oh and by the way this is not the best race at NCAAs for the distance lovers. I would have to say the 10,000 will be just as good if the top guys are all in top form. 1500 is stacked as well with the race being decided on the same criteria as the 800. Love the predictions keep em coming.

Ulrey. Nuff said.

Are you kidding me with these 1:47 predictions?! Jock ran 1:45.7 in his semi. You think he or anyone else is going to run slower in the final? The winner will need to run very close to 1:45-flat if not under.

The Vindicator wrote:

Are you kidding me with these 1:47 predictions?! Jock ran 1:45.7 in his semi. You think he or anyone else is going to run slower in the final? The winner will need to run very close to 1:45-flat if not under.

Did you see the NCAA meet last year, you dunce? Three guys ran 1:45 in the prelims, another five ran 1:46.x. In the final only one guy (Wheating) ran 1:45, and only 2 others ran 1:46.

I'm pretty sure we can all agree that Jock will become the new Johnny Gray if this keeps up.

How about Akron sophomore Willie Brown running a 1:45.91 in the semis? His best time prior to that seems to be a low 1:48 and his fastest time last year was only 1:50! This guy has dropped more than four seconds since last year and dropped over two seconds in this race. He also ran 48 low in a 400m open race this year, so he does not have tremendous wheels, but he doesn't have any listed results for higher distances. Does anyone know about this guy? What kind of future does he have? He ran 1:51.91 in high school and was also 7th at the ohio state meet in the 400m.

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