Pete Magill CRUSHES

just curious, is this guy related to pete MAGILL??? b/c the guy you're talking about sounds irish or something like that.

drug believer wrote:The fact remains, Pete McGill is a firm believer that drugs are the way to run your best times, and he has told this to high school kids.

single track wrote:

I seriously don't get it. I understand a high school runner getting inspiration from Ritz or someone like that. But for old guys to need a roll model is really strange.

Make up your mind. First you said inspiration, now you say roll model. Looks like back pedaling to me, and I can say I don't blame you.

By the way, how old were you when you lost the ability to be inspired? And what crushed your spirit so thoroughly?

If a master isn't showing up in big races, I assume they are injured/taking a break. Pete is showing up, therefore he is #1, period.What have Sean or Dennis Simonaitis been up to the last year or so?(P.S. Just checked Wade's blog and it looks as if he is injured currently. Dennis S. ran 14:45 at Carlsbad last year, but was beat by 5 seconds by...Christian Cushing-Murray. Pete is Top Dog.)

truthbetold... wrote:

Guys, most of the top masters runners did not even run this race. A few years ago sean wade showed up in his training shoes on the same course and waxed pete and a tougher field. Pete is a great runner for 49 but not the top masters runner around.

[quote]Magill Disciple wrote:

Pay careful attention to what he says at around 50 seconds into the video. It's his secret. Nobody listens though.

That's it. He nails it again. "I don't train like an idiot ... you have to adjust everyday." Much easier said than done, IMHO.

ejf

single track wrote:

I seriously don't get it. I understand a high school runner getting inspiration from Ritz or someone like that. But for old guys to need a roll model is really strange.

To clarify, the Pillsbury Doughboy is a ROLL model.

Pete Magill is a ROLE model.

I have been running for over thirty years and have a fair amount of self motivation. If I didn't, I wouldn't still be running. That being said, there is nothing strange about an old guy getting inspiration or motivation from another person, older or younger.

Many others have noited why they think Pete is a good role model. Despite being a tremendous competitor, he is also very open and willing to help other runners by passing on the value of his experience.

Pete should write a training book.

The book needs to be blunt enough to get runners to change the stupid waspish ways.

The title:Stop Training Like An IDIOT

Chapter 1:You are not an idiot so why do you train like one?

cheap american bastard wrote:

just curious, is this guy related to pete MAGILL??? b/c the guy you're talking about sounds irish or something like that.

drug believer wrote:The fact remains, Pete McGill is a firm believer that drugs are the way to run your best times, and he has told this to high school kids.

My apologies to the Irish!

Excellent points. SoCal and CCM both know that CCM is stronger on the track, particularly middle distance, and neither of them could take Wade in a marathon. Cross is completely different, and SoCal has the right combination of strength, training wisdom and ability to make it work. At least most of the time :-)Now given that Wade is the master's record holder in the beer mile, and Pete and CCM have, um, some experience in this area, that's a race I would like to see.

Reality Bath wrote:

If a master isn't showing up in big races, I assume they are injured/taking a break. Pete is showing up, therefore he is #1, period.

What have Sean or Dennis Simonaitis been up to the last year or so?

(P.S. Just checked Wade's blog and it looks as if he is injured currently. Dennis S. ran 14:45 at Carlsbad last year, but was beat by 5 seconds by...Christian Cushing-Murray. Pete is Top Dog.)

truthbetold... wrote:

Guys, most of the top masters runners did not even run this race. A few years ago sean wade showed up in his training shoes on the same course and waxed pete and a tougher field. Pete is a great runner for 49 but not the top masters runner around.

SoCal and CCM both know that CCM is stronger. How many miles a week are day running?

on a good week, i may hit 70. i'd guess that pete hits more. however, i've always believed it's not about counting the miles, but making the miles count...

Wow, here I thought I ran a patient, smart race, winning a masters xc title at age 49! I was pretty happy! Especially since I thought at least a couple runners in the race could beat me most days!

But here's what I've learned from this thread:

1) I'm the greatest masters xc runner ever.

2) I'm a very average masters xc runner who had the benefit of not running against anybody who was any good.

3) I'm on performance enhancing drugs.

4) I run, what, 25 miles a week?

5) I was a body builder.

6) I let myself go for 20 years.

7) I'm running my best times at almost 50 years of age.

8) I can't be a masters xc champion in 2011 because Sean Wade beat me by 9 seconds in 2008.

Here's the thing: As far as I know, none of the above are true.

In answer to each:

1) It's masters - who cares who's the "greatest?"

2) Lots of very good masters runners participate in these races - I know, lots of them have beaten me.

3) I'm not - and you're a total dickhead for suggesting that, but you already know that.

4) I run about 85-95 miles a week when it's not a race week, about 70-75 miles when it is.

5) I wasn't, though I did lift weights for about a year in my 20s.

6) I ran a 5:09 2K and a 30:05 road 10K at age 29 - was it the 20 years before that or after that I let myself go completely?

7) See No. 6.

8) Really? I can't win a title now because I lost 3 years ago? ... Really?! What the hell are you smoking? (FYI - this is my sixth overall masters xc title ... Do I get credit for any of them? Or does one loss to Sean Wade invalidate any other win I might ever claim?)

You know, I really love my running peers. I love being part of this community. It's why I train hard and work equally hard to keep my club (Compex Racing) alive and kicking. And Skip, I wish I could give you the magic map that would take you from where you are now, fitness-wise, to where you want to be, but it varies from person to person. That's your journey, and my training guides are just suggestions - not mathematical equations that always solve for the correct answer. That's why we need coaches. That's why we need running clubs and teammates and tune-up races. That's why we need one another's support, both when we're struggling and when we're having days we'll never forget - like yesterday's USA XC meet.

Okay, all the best to everyone out there sharing the running life!

To the haters: try a little less bitterness, rudeness, ignorance, and unsubstantiated finger-pointing, and try a little more training. You might find you're happier with the result.

Yeah, Pete! Are you planning to run Master's worlds in Sacramento this summer? Is so, what event?

Pete,

You forgot "too thick to be a distance runner". Please add this to your list.

Are you sure you didn't run 90 miles once and then run 25 miles per week for the other 51 weeks this year?

I'm not a hater, I'm a skeptic (and a lover like Ryan Hall) and putting you on trial as a suspect on charges of conspiracy theory.

MagillaGorilla wrote:

Pete,

You forgot "too thick to be a distance runner". Please add this to your list.

Are you sure you didn't run 90 miles once and then run 25 miles per week for the other 51 weeks this year?

I'm not a hater, I'm a skeptic (and a lover like Ryan Hall) and putting you on trial as a suspect on charges of conspiracy theory.

Charge:

9) Too thick to be a distance runner.

Answer:

9) Guilty as charged. And you wouldn't believe how hard I have to diet to be "only" that thick!

Okay, must grab my copy of Catcher in the Rye, hop into my black helicopter, and go buzz the grass knoll.

MagillaGorilla wrote:

Pete,

You forgot "too thick to be a distance runner". Please add this to your list.

Are you sure you didn't run 90 miles once and then run 25 miles per week for the other 51 weeks this year?

I'm not a hater, I'm a skeptic (and a lover like Ryan Hall) and putting you on trial as a suspect on charges of conspiracy theory.

you're not a hater, nor a skeptic. you're a clueless idiot (and i mean that lovingly) hiding behind an anonymous username (but hey, this IS letsrun, and we'd expect nothing less). it's not like pete's suddenly breaking 13 minutes 10 years past his prime. jesus, we only ran around 5:30 pace yesterday--good, but not phenomenal or world-shaking. and his prize money would doubtfully pay for enough epo to make a difference (not that i'd know how much epo would cost...but i digress...). and the fame of having a letsrun thread is probably not worth the price either. if you were a true skeptic, you'd be looking at octagenarians kenneth wright and bill turley...

I have no reply to any other points you brought up, as I had nothing to do with them, but as for this:

"1) It's masters - who cares who's the "greatest?""

I strongly feel that Master's running is as legitimate a subset of the sport as women's, high school, collegiate, whatever. Each of those subsets gets to enjoy a sense of history, both of those that came before and those that are currently making it. It is a measure of the legitimacy and depth of the sport, and of those make the effort.

Like so many who are in the thick of it, I know you prefer the "let's just race, drink beer, and run 12 in the morning" screed over such questions, but without recognizing the greats, the Jack Fosters, the Derek Turnbulls, the Priscilla Welches and yes, even the Tony Youngs and Pete Magills, we are doing a disservice to all those who strive past the sensible, and into the realm of the inspired.

Maybe it's a product of my being beat on the roads in my youth by old guys who were my dad's age but still ran under 5:00 miles for 5K or sub-5:30's for the marathon. four decades later I still remember their names, and I never ran faster than they did, at least not on the roads.

You made me aware of one omission though: I meant to say "The greatest *U.S.* Master". Foster would have handed it to you any day of the week ;)

Not my intent to dis' you, Reality Bath. Was just laughing at the whole thing, and your comment got caught up in it.

Personally, I think Dennis Simonaitis is the best there is when it comes to the last 10 years of masters competition. I'm in awe of the guy.

So we're all inspired by our peers, moi included.

And yeah, Foster would have handed it to me. So would Steve Moneghetti. For that matter, if that damn Wade ever gets healthy again (and he will, if I have to fly to Houston and put him through rehab myself! ... mostly involving beer), he'll hand it to me too. So it goes. ;-)

None of the things that were stated were denied.

Pete in what race you ran a 30:05 10k?