Frankly, I don't give a tiny rat's a$$ what kind of hill training you want to do. I know if I start talking about Lydiard, this nut-case troll always comes on and start trashing me and/or Lydiard so I really prefer not to even touch Lydiard at letsrun any more. But here's the thing; the guy criticized me for putting up Lydiard shoe lacing. I don't care what the guy says; all we want to do with Lydiard Foundation is to convey what Lydiard was talking about to those who want to learn about it. I'm sure there are a couple of dozens different ways to run up the hills. Canova's short alactic sprints; Coe did it his way; I'm sure J.O. has his (or her) own way and I would not say any of these as "wrong" way to do it. But if you do, say, Canova style short sharp hill sprints DURING Lydiard's cycle when you're supposed to do hill training phase as a transition, I'd say it's the "wrong" way to do hills in the context of Lydiard cycle. There's a reason why he did the way he did it and where he placed it. There are I'm sure a half a dozen different ways to do a long run and more than a dozen ways to do intervals. And I'm sure all of them are equally effective. But if someone asks me how to do the Lydiard program and, in the context of Lydiard program, how to do hill training, I'd tell everybody do it the way Lydiard himself taught me because it makes sense to do it that way. If you don't want to do it that way and you'd rather run up the hill fast without any up-and-down motion, fine. Do it that way and, like I said, I don't give a tiny rat's a$$ about it. If you want to include that kind of hill training during so-called Lydiard conditioning phase, fine too. Go ahead and do it. But if someone comes to me and asks me how to do Lydiard program and asks me if it's okay to do short sharp hill sprints during the conditioning, I'd strongly recommend against it because that's not what Lydiard's conditioning is all about. You CAN still do it if you need to depending on the situation (like you have the obligation to race and you need to get ready for it in, say, February while conditioinig). Is it, in Lydiard's mind, optimal to do that? No. If you want to call that "cult", I don't have a minute to spare in my day to spend to argue it. If showing how Lydiard recommended to lace your shoes means us being a "cult", again, I don't give a damn about it. Nobody will be wiser not to know how to do it. But if someone asks me how Lydiard recommended how to lace the shoe, there you are; we've got it on our website. If you want to know about Lydiard, our website is the place to find out; not here at letsrun.com because there are way too many experts of everything here who is more eager to show off their expert knowledge. And I'm sure they are just as effective or even better than Lydiard himself as some had claimed. That's fine too. We have developed "idiot-proof" Lydaird program for all to check out. If you want to try out, there you go. If you don't, well, we wouldn't twist your arms to try it; go do J.O. Training Program or whatever; we care less. We still promote it simply because we believe it's the most effective way to go about; if not, we wouldn't have started Lydiard Foundation in the first place. If J.O. wants to start J.O. Foundation and put up the video of how to do hill training J.O. Way, all the power to him.