Dominguez detained in doping investigation

Yep, stupids. Of course it's applicable to sprints.

If someone is going to run the marathon in one stride in a zillion years or whatever, of course someone will be able to do 100 in one stride. Eventually it'll be a fraction of a stride, more like just a lean for the line when the gun goes.

that would be 1/20 right?

Barroid wrote:

Yup, it's just like Victor Conte's book sez, paraphase "it's child's play to defeat WADA/USADA", who both work for the TV Networks to let dopers slide. Testers could nab Symmonds, Cliff Lee, Solinisky, Hallday, Rupp, Tim Lincecum again like they nabbed A-Rod and still USATF/MLB would let them slide. Bottom line is we need international laws to govern PEDs in sports.

If WADA and USADA are perpetuating cover-ups, then why was Marco Pantani kicked out while leading the Tour of Italy on it's second to last day, in his OWN COUNTRY? Why has Tyler Hamilton (a Grand Tour medalist) been busted for blood doping in 2004 (and later given an 8-year ban); then Operacion Puerto knocked out Grand Tour WINNERS Ivan Basso and Jan Ulrich, and five members of the ASTANA team in 2006; Floyd Landis (TdF winner) been busted in 2006 and lost the TdF; then Micheal Rasmussen busted (out of leading the TdF) in 2007; then Alexandre Vinokourov testing positive for blood doping in 2008, Team Cofidis pulled out following the positive test on their rider Cristian Moreni, Iban Mayo busted for EPO?

Then in 2009 Riccardo Ricco and Peipoli busted out of the TdF and given two-year bans?

IF you think WADA and USADA aren't doing anything, check this out:

Czech guy, neither Bolt, Gay, Powell, Carter, or Greene has tested positive, and all have run under 9.8

Yes. I was not correct. Greene only bought steroids and masking agents from Angel Heredia. I am sorry.

J.R. wrote:

J.O. wrote:

I think that blood doping or EPO are red herrings. Psychosomatic effects only.

I agree with this 100 percent and have been saying the same thing for years.

There is no REASON for such things to work, in fact they hare harmful to health.

Look in an hospital and anyone can see the people are much worse off than the average population, which is due to the medications and bad treatment.

Also look to WHO BENEFITS from the use of the medications in sporting events, surprise surprise, it is the same corporations that produce the medications, the same ones with their bogus drug ads on TV 24/7, the same drugs that don't work and that make people sick.

Anyone who has ever had to take EPO for kidney dialysis or for anemia related to Cancer treatment or any other purpose will tell you how much an effect bringing your hematocrit UP from 35% to 43% has.

If you can bring it from 43% to 60% like distance runners can do since they are not blood-tested, what kind of gains do you think happen?

Renato: How can you explain away the story of Raymond Tanui who was caught with EPO in the UK. He brought the EPO from Kenya and said that he got it on the advice of his training mates there. According to Tanui, doping IS taking place in the Kenyan training groups - with or without the knowledge of managers can coaches.

Question for Renato wrote:

Renato: How can you explain away the story of Raymond Tanui who was caught with EPO in the UK. He brought the EPO from Kenya and said that he got it on the advice of his training mates there. According to Tanui, doping IS taking place in the Kenyan training groups - with or without the knowledge of managers can coaches.

Impossible! That's a blatant lie! I took only vitamins (Vitamin E, P, and O). Furthermore, we trained hard over the winter 1994-95 to shock the mzungus. Or do you really think that my brotha Paul Tergat ran 27:14-27:23 for three years, only because he could not run faster? No, he was already much faster then, but he only pretended he was slow. He wanted to see stunned mzungus' faces. This explains, why he then exploded to 26:27 within the next 2 years. This is our East African tactics.

Augusto Perez wrote:

Kaki ran a PB and national record of 1:42.23 in 2010. Silas Kiplagat and Amine Laalou both broke 3:30, the first time since 2006 that two or more men broke 3:30 in the same season. In total, Rudisha became the fastest 800m runner ever and Kaki became the fifth fastest ever. In the 1500m this last year, Silas Kiplagat became the tenth fastest man in history, and Laalou became the sixteenth fastest. Overall, the middle distances were much improved over last year.

First year that 2 men broke 3:30 in the same year?

1985

That is 25 seasons ago now! Look over the progress fo the WR and the depth of the annual lists for the 800/1500 vs. the 5k/10k and you will see where the EPO has done the most damage!

spot on.

Willie "Red Cell" Kipketer wrote:Or do you really think that my brotha Paul Tergat ran 27:14-27:23 for three years, only because he could not run faster? No, he was already much faster then, but he only pretended he was slow. He wanted to see stunned mzungus' faces. This explains, why he then exploded to 26:27 within the next 2 years. This is our East African tactics.

err...

if you are his brotha, you musta been the retard of the family

you do realise tergat was a basketball player until ~ '92 & only took up serious running about then ?

he also had injuries early on which kept him out of '93 wc

he was already a 27'18 guy in '93 with barely more than 1y of serious training

over-racing in '94/'95 didn't help his development or allow him to "peak"

by '96 he reduced his racing & in '97, his glory year he raced to a minimum, allowing him to peak properly for specific races

Thank you for your support, brotha Ventolin. Everybody knows that talented Kenyans could run 26:30 as early as in 1968. They were genetic marvels. But we were sorry for the poor slow mzungus. Moroccans and Ethiopians were sorry for them, too. But everything has its limits. Thus we patiently waited until 1995 - and then everything broke loose.

How are you doing in the madhouse, by the way?

well brotha stoopid

kenyans were running 26'58 in '93 & 26'52 in '94, so somewhat before your numbskull '95

oh wait : so they were only taking 1/2 doses of drugs in those days ???

& brotha stoopid, it was '97 before <26'30

good point!

ventolin^3 wrote:

kenyans were running 26'58 in '93 & 26'52 in '94, so somewhat before your numbskull '95

...because EPO was widely available around 1990 in Europe and it took 2-3 years before it was massively used in other continents?

tomtom wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

kenyans were running 26'58 in '93 & 26'52 in '94, so somewhat before your numbskull '95

...because EPO was widely available around 1990 in Europe and it took 2-3 years before it was massively used in other continents?

Nonsense. In 1993, I was so poor that I could not buy a single toilet paper, not speaking about EPO. Do you know that I had to ride to Europe on bike? And it was not even mine; I had to steal it from certain mzungu called Hermens, who once visited our village.

So ... Kenyan's do not have access to pharmaceuticals or medical equipment? Hmm ... but you do say you have the internet? Well ... I found the following products available for purchase within 15 seconds via Google.

http://www.dhgate.com/free-transport-96pcs-lot-red-blood-transfusion/p-ff8080812b2e44e5012b2f5b3c19699c.html

http://www.dhgate.com/disposable-sterile-syringe-set-luer-slip/r-ff8080812cf9f14f012d01e40ed90a00.html

I gather you are not running your computer on a generator or batteries, so am I correct in assuming that you have access to electricity? You must serve up a cold drink to your guests now and then? Right then ... you must have a refrigerator!

Thanks to Dr. Karl Landsteiner we have known the benefits of certain practices shall we say. If one needs to be educated on the subject they can merely once again utilize the internet to find guidance on the correct procedure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_3Kpy_aATE&feature=related

You argue that there is no benefit to blood doping. Next you will argue that there is also no benefit to altitude training?

Assoluta assurdità!

Look up the story of Lagat and his EPO case. He was not left off because of a false positive. He was let go with the details remaining private. When his lawyer said that Lagat should be publicly exonerated by the IAAF in order to help him clear his name to get endorsements, the IAAF told him basically to shut up or they would reveal what really happened.

Third world athletes will get a pass many times, because it's PC. Period.

Lagat Be Dopin wrote:

Third world athletes will get a pass many times, because it's PC. Period.

Yes, of course. Tell me, which city is hosting the 2012 World Cross Country Championships?

eh ?

that is complete nonsense

the iaaf had nothing to do with it - bernie rejected their offer & went to court, but case was dismissed as he coudn't prove the amount of lost earnings :

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/9/18/apworld/20060918080103&sec=apworld