my physiology professor told me if i´m able to have a convo while running, i´m running too slow and it doens´t do me any good. I called bs on that, if i run my recovery runs and am not able to carry on a conversation I feel like i´m running too fast, what do ya´ll think?
7:20-7:40
19:00 5k (female)
75-85mpw
This whole thread is an example of the mentality that prevents the US from truly competing with the East Africans.
oh boy... wrote:
This whole thread is an example of the mentality that prevents the US from truly competing with the East Africans.
There are ALOT of different answers on this thread. Explain yourself.
Let me rephrase. THAT we have a thread like this is indicative of a mindset that holds us back collectively.
Generally speaking, we as runners in the west are all about paces and heart rates and gels and compression socks and... you get the point. We have lost touch with our running spirits, so to speak. I am guilty of this as well.
So, we need to let go and not worry about how fast we do our recovery runs and our tempo runs and what our heart rates are. These things are limiters more than enablers I am afraid. Strangely, here I am, engaged in the conversation. Do as I say ? not as I do maybe? Anyway, I think we might all be better off if the only time we worried about time was after toeing it up and then looking at the clock.
Well then let me rephrase because I never said that I followed my watch. Maybe some of the other posters feel the same way.
I do not time my recovery runs, I just run at what feels like the least strenuous pace. I look down at my watch and it just happens to usually be over 8:00 minutes. Sometimes it's over 9:00 sometimes it's under 7:00. Just depends on the day and the day before.
7.00-7.20
15.40
100-120mpw
oh boy... wrote:
Let me rephrase. THAT we have a thread like this is indicative of a mindset that holds us back collectively.
Generally speaking, we as runners in the west are all about paces and heart rates and gels and compression socks and... you get the point. We have lost touch with our running spirits, so to speak. I am guilty of this as well.
So, we need to let go and not worry about how fast we do our recovery runs and our tempo runs and what our heart rates are. These things are limiters more than enablers I am afraid. Strangely, here I am, engaged in the conversation. Do as I say ? not as I do maybe? Anyway, I think we might all be better off if the only time we worried about time was after toeing it up and then looking at the clock.
Why do you think theres a range on 90 percent of the posters... No one said they have to run 7 flat pace on rec days. They said 7-8 min pace. If they feel fine they go 7 min pace if not they run somewhere closer to 8 min. Its as simple as that.
oh boy... wrote:
Let me rephrase. THAT we have a thread like this is indicative of a mindset that holds us back collectively.
Generally speaking, we as runners in the west are all about paces and heart rates and gels and compression socks and... you get the point. We have lost touch with our running spirits, so to speak. I am guilty of this as well.
So, we need to let go and not worry about how fast we do our recovery runs and our tempo runs and what our heart rates are. These things are limiters more than enablers I am afraid. Strangely, here I am, engaged in the conversation. Do as I say ? not as I do maybe? Anyway, I think we might all be better off if the only time we worried about time was after toeing it up and then looking at the clock.
What are you, 17?
Recovery runs are as slow as I can without feeling unnatural, which is usually means running 8:00 pace or so briefly at the beginning of the run and closer to 7:00 for the vast majority of the run.
Easy runs are the same only starting at 7:00 or so and then doing the bulk of the run at 6:40 pace or so, but sometimes as fast as 6:00 if I'm feeling good. I don't try to run any certain pace; I just go by feel, and it usually works out to between 6:30 and 6:50.
Haven't run any competitive track races in a while. Hopefully this indoors. 4:13 mile PR from several years back.
8 to 9 min 85 to 100 miles per week, 16 15 5k
So here is an important question...how often do you do recovery runs?(as opposed to easy runs) When do you do them? How do they fit into your schedule?
Mine looks like this:
M recovery run eg 4 miles @8-9min pace
T workout
W easy @ 7:10-7:30min mile
T medium long
F workout or steady run @6:20-6:30 pace
S easy @ 7:10-7:30 min pace
S long 90 mins
So I only do singles and only do 1 recovery run per week. Tempo runs are about 5:40 per mile.
I am very interested in how others integrate their recovery runs.
I don't know if you'd consider doubles recovery runs, but if so I like to do those around 7:30 to 8:00, though it's usually progressive.
I'll take recovery runs as I need them, which usually ends up being after tough workouts or hard long runs. I think they're usually around 7:30 but I know I've run 10:00 pace before.
90-100 mpw, 25:00 8k.
No Guppy. I wish I were 17 though !
Again, here we are. Why are we even discussing this? Get the point now?
Well I do so much easy running that I don't have to do recovery runs. You could call my easy runs recovery runs if you wanted too. My average pace for this week was 8:04.(thats averaging EVERY run this week) But I didnt do any tempo, race, intervals this week because my hammy is acting up a little.
I almost feel better when Im running rec runs at 7:15 pace as opposed to 7:45 pace.