"His speed is still improving significantly with each passing week and I would expect him to have a 1:46 in him if he ran a well-paced 800 later this week. So, I think a 3:38 would be a conservative estimate. I say 3:36." --i kinda like running
Told ya so.
Alright, everyone post here who can run 3:53 with 3 months of training after an 18 month layoff.
TrackCoach wrote:
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I have found McMillan calc to be pretty accurate, but I think most athletes would agree that 3:36x is eqaul to 3:53 as opposed to 3:52.
Btw, that was a a very comptitive race Webb was in; only 2 seconds seperating the top 7.
Because this was a good field, his workouts were getting much better and because he closed well in beating a 3:36 guy in his last 1500, I had him running 3:35.7 or 3:35.8 and getting the A standard. Unfortunately, he JUST missed the 2009 WC A standard of 3:36.20, by .01s, so unless they reduce the standard again, he's going to have to chase the A standard outdoors next year prior to U.S. champs. On the positive side, this result suggests that he will have no problem doing that by that time. He should contend very strongly for the U.S. team, but those trials are going to be VERY competitive even if Lagat skips the 1500m. Think about Wheating, Manzano, Lomong, Webb, possibly Lagat, and maybe Centro/Ulrey/Torrence/Acosta, and a few others all gunning for three spots in a kicker's race. Wheating and Manzano have outstanding kicks, when they are right. If trials is not in Eugene, Manzano should be tough.
I1ll that 3:52 converter an out--
big green book published by tfnews tells us
mile to 1500m divide by 1.08
1500 to mile multiply by 1.0737
on the printed chart they list
3:26.2==3:52.2 for that bastard event the 1600m and 3:53.5 for a mile
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
Because this was a good field, his workouts were getting much better and because he closed well in beating a 3:36 guy in his last 1500, I had him running 3:35.7 or 3:35.8 and getting the A standard. Unfortunately, he JUST missed the 2009 WC A standard of 3:36.20, by .01s, so unless they reduce the standard again, he's going to have to chase the A standard outdoors next year prior to U.S. champs. On the positive side, this result suggests that he will have no problem doing that by that time. He should contend very strongly for the U.S. team, but those trials are going to be VERY competitive even if Lagat skips the 1500m. Think about Wheating, Manzano, Lomong, Webb, possibly Lagat, and maybe Centro/Ulrey/Torrence/Acosta, and a few others all gunning for three spots in a kicker's race. Wheating and Manzano have outstanding kicks, when they are right. If trials is not in Eugene, Manzano should be tough.
He can't get the standard now. The qualifying window doesn't open up until next month.
Does that time give Webb an A qualifer for next year's WC's?
Track Fan wrote:
Does that time give Webb an A qualifer for next year's WC's?
The marathon, walks, relays, heptathlon/decathlon and the 100000m are the only events in which someone can attain the standard right now. For all the other events, the window opens up on October 1.
I love the idiots who think 16 sec conversion is off. I suppose they think something like 18 seconds is across the board--no matter how fast you run.
does anyone know where to view video of the race?
WEBBBBBBBBBBBB! I was a doubter, but he's on his way back.
As for the race, this was a strong field and with rabbits so it strung out largely single file quickly.
Will hung out in the middle and near the front for most of the race. Webb was in the back 5th from last at 800m, but less than a second behind Willis as it wasn't that spread out. (1:53.35 for the rabbits probably 1:55.1 for Webb)
The final rabbit hit 1200m in 2:52.08 and dropped out. He was .5 clear of the rest of the field. Diego Ruiz was then in the lead. Willis was in 4th, World Champ Kamel in 6th, Webb 8th. Ruiz head the lead till 150 to go when Demma Daba BIKILA came to the front. Heading into the final 100m Willis was biding his place in 4th and starting to go wide on the straight and Kamel was behind him.
Willis got the lead probably 60m from the finish and won comfortably. Ruiz who looked dead with 150 to go, had a good kick the last 100m and came back up for 2nd and Kamel moved up the entire last stretch but was 3rd.
Webb had started to go wide about 80m from the finish but then saw space on the inside and just stayed on the rail moving up to finish 5th.
Webb and Willis both have to be pleased with that run. Webb for once in his life can lose races and people are really psyched about it.
300m 41.4
700m 1:38.7 (57.31)
800m 1:53.35
1100m 2:37 (58.32)
1200 2:52.08 rabbit drops out (Willis 4th, Webb 8th)
1500 3:35 (58.13)
1. 34 Nick WILLIS 1983 3'35.17
2. 27 Diego RUIZ 1982 3'35.47
3. 24 Yusuf Saad KAMEL 1983 3'35.70
4. 26 Demma Daba BIKILA 1989 3'36.14
5. 30 Alan WEBB 1983 3'36.21
6. 36 Hillary MAIYO 1993 3'36.42
7. 28 Collins BIRMINGHAM 1984 3'36.53
8. 29 Oleksandr BORYSYUK 1985 3'37.31
9. 25 Mitch KEALEY 1984 3'37.96
10. 31 Goran NAVA 1981 3'38.04
11. 32 Kristof VAN MALDEREN 1983 3'38.27
12. 33 Johannes RAABE 1987 3'43.12
RIT. 35 Yoann KOWAL 1987 RIT
RIT. 37 Benson ESHO 1987 RIT
RIT. 38 Vickson POLONET 1985 RIT
Guyz juzt erd webby had a gr8 run 3.36.40 leadin @ da bell but lckd da sp33d lols.
1. 34 Nick WILLIS 1983 3'35.29
2. 27 Diego RUIZ 1982 3'35.51
3. 24 Yusuf Saad KAMEL 1983 3'35.79
4. 26 Demma Daba BIKILA 1989 3'36.18
5. 30 Alan WEBB 1983 3'36.40
6. 36 Hillary MAIYO 1993 3'36.50
7. 28 Collins BIRMINGHAM 1984 3'36.53
8. 29 Oleksandr BORYSYUK 1985 3'37.45
9. 25 Mitch KEALEY 1984 3'37.99
10. 31 Goran NAVA 1981 3'38.26
11. 32 Kristof VAN MALDEREN 1983 3'38.99
12. 33 Johannes RAABE 1987 4'43.12
RIT. 35 Yoann KOWAL 1987 RIT
RIT. 37 Benson ESHO 1987 RIT
RIT. 38 Vickson POLONET 1985 RIT
6. 36 Hillary MAIYO 1993 3'36.50
how about this guy? Anybody every heard of him? Running 3:36 at age 17? SICK!!
Here's what our list of milers could look like next year:
Lagat 3:49
Manzano 3:48
Lomong 3:49
Wheating 3:46
Webb... 3:49?
That's so damn legit.
Centro, Ulrey, Fernandez, Acosta...Andrews?
Collins is my hero. GO COLLINS!!
1. 34 Nick WILLIS 1983 3'35.17
2. 27 Diego RUIZ 1982 3'35.47
3. 24 Yusuf Saad KAMEL 1983 3'35.70
4. 26 Demma Daba BIKILA 1989 3'36.14
5. 30 Alan WEBB 1983 3'36.21
6. 36 Hillary MAIYO 1993 3'36.42
7. 28 Collins BIRMINGHAM 1984 3'36.53
8. 29 Oleksandr BORYSYUK 1985 3'37.31
9. 25 Mitch KEALEY 1984 3'37.96
10. 31 Goran NAVA 1981 3'38.04
11. 32 Kristof VAN MALDEREN 1983 3'38.27
12. 33 Johannes RAABE 1987 3'43.12
RIT. 35 Yoann KOWAL 1987 RIT
RIT. 37 Benson ESHO 1987 RIT
RIT. 38 Vickson POLONET 1985 RIT
3:36!!!!! Great race for Webb!
Can someone post the official results?!
socially semi-inconsequential wrote:
mile to 1500m divide by 1.08
1500 to mile multiply by 1.0737
Awesome! I run a 4:00 1500. Let's do some conversions:
*1.0737 = 4:17.69 mile
/1.08 = 3:58.6 1500
*1.0737 = 4:16.18 mile
/1.08 = 3:57.20 1500
*1.0737 = 4:14.69 mile
/1.08 = 3:55.82 1500
*1.0737 = 4:13.20
/1.08 = 3:54.45 1500
......
This conversion stuff works! With some more conversions I plan on breaking the world record soon.
the master wrote:
socially semi-inconsequential wrote:mile to 1500m divide by 1.08
1500 to mile multiply by 1.0737
Awesome! I run a 4:00 1500. Let's do some conversions:
*1.0737 = 4:17.69 mile
/1.08 = 3:58.6 1500
*1.0737 = 4:16.18 mile
/1.08 = 3:57.20 1500
*1.0737 = 4:14.69 mile
/1.08 = 3:55.82 1500
*1.0737 = 4:13.20
/1.08 = 3:54.45 1500
......
This conversion stuff works! With some more conversions I plan on breaking the world record soon.
POD!
Does anybody has the video? PLease post.
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