I'm looking to see if there is any documentation on the physiological effects over runs over 26 miles and their effects on performance, especially marathon performance. Thanks.
I'm looking to see if there is any documentation on the physiological effects over runs over 26 miles and their effects on performance, especially marathon performance. Thanks.
I have heard that the Japanese will do long runs up to 50k. Might try looking into literature on Japanese training technique.
I haven't heard of too much, though Seko is famous for doing overdistance training, as well as Gelindo Bordin and some Kenyans. I think it isn't too common...I know there are a few details in Noakes' Lore of Running. That's where I'd start...you can even view parts of it for free on Google Books.
Me too.
In theory, it makes sense that one should be comfortable with a distance longer than their race, as that is consistent with the other distances. On the other hand, there was a well known study done decades ago that showed there was little correlation between performance and the length of their long runs. Rather, it was their weekly total distances that meant the most.
So I guess, we should focus on bringing up weekly totals first before worrying about the length of a single run.
I have done long runs over the marathon distance in preparing for a marathon.
There is no doubt to me that it is a good idea as long as the effort is not so great that it wipes you out and you recover properly.
When I was doing this, my weekly mileage was around 100, so a 30 miler at about 90 seconds/mile slower than race pace was a big deal, but I recovered enough in two or three days to be doing mile repeats of good quality.
I think a lot of people say "anything can happen in a marathon" because they are not accustomed to the distance. The longer the training runs, the more accustomed they become to the distance and the more predictable they can run. They probably run smarter, too, as they understand what their body can and cannot do as the distance accumulates during the race.
Pretty sure Ryan Hall, Josh Cox, et al, have a 30 mile training run up on the net. Maybe Flotrack.
"Your mileage may vary"
..everybody responds differently. Try it.
Some swear by it. Others get rundown, or hurt.
Bordin did it, despite Canova telling him it was not neccessary (and probably even counter-productive).
Seko
Kenny Moore
Malmo had this 28 mile loop he discussed a while back.
Its not a weekly staple...but it could be...who knows.
Brent wrote:
Pretty sure Ryan Hall, Josh Cox, et al, have a 30 mile training run up on the net. Maybe Flotrack.
That was Cox. Hall doesn´t do 30 milers, as far as I know.
This plan has a couple 30 milers. I have used it a couple of times with a little tweaking and it worked well for me. I kept the 30+ mile runs pretty easy.
I was wondering the same thing. Have any studies been done on this?
Ron Clarke advised it to prevent muscle fatigue in the marathon.
Mick Shrimpton wrote:
"Your mileage may vary"
..everybody responds differently. Try it.
Some swear by it. Others get rundown, or hurt.
Bordin did it, despite Canova telling him it was not neccessary (and probably even counter-productive).
Seko
Kenny Moore
Malmo had this 28 mile loop he discussed a while back.
Its not a weekly staple...but it could be...who knows.
Canova did not coach Bordin. He was coached by Luciano Gigliotti.