sign it, frame it, and put it at the entrance to your house
sign it, frame it, and put it at the entrance to your house
Well Dan T judging by your original post you are a man that likes to take it up the ass on a regular basis. Therefore it is imperative that you include in your little prenup that you are free to have extramarital intercourse with members of your own gender. This will protect you when she catches you throat deep on another man's penis.
Advice From Another Lawyer wrote:
Ask her if she wants the prenup or her parents. If she says her parents, agree to sign on the condition that she sign another prenup the next day invalidating the 1st one and changing the property distribution upon dissolution to the community property laws recognized by your state. This will give her something to show her parents that isn't worth the paper its written on. If she says that she is behind the prenup, because you are bothered by this is reason enough not to marry her. If you do, your unequally wealth will make you feel like her slave. Find someone with your own income level. The extra money she has isn't worth dealing with the subservient role.
The only good thing about taking this advice is that someone may have a nice malpractice or fraud claim against this alleged lawyer (who apparently also doesn't know that many states do not have "community property laws").
Dan, what state do you live in? If you are in a community property state, the money she has before the marriage is her separate property, which she would be entitled to on divorce. Does the prenup deal with earnings during marriage? In a community property state you would be entitled to part of these.
LegalEagle wrote:
Dan, what state do you live in? If you are in a community property state, the money she has before the marriage is her separate property, which she would be entitled to on divorce. Does the prenup deal with earnings during marriage? In a community property state you would be entitled to part of these.
The fact is that it doesn't matter where he lives now, the divorce laws of the state where he gets divorced would be controlling.
Lots of bad advice here, see a lawyer. Pay for him yourself.
Realize that legal marriage is a property contract. Take emotion out of it. If the contract is one you can live with than do it. If it isn't than don't.
Mr. Price wrote:
Branderson391 wrote:It is her families money and you are marrying into it which means you are not entitled to any of it...ever. (by that I mean ethically not legally)
I find it appalling when a someone marries for money.
Earn your own money.
Spoken like a trust fund baby. The arguments for inherited wealth (beyond a few things like sentimental property, a college education, etc...) are stupid. How bout' you earn your own wealth without relying on "ma" and "pa." Sign the pre-nup, but not because it's "her" property. Do it because it'll make her feel a lot more comfortable.
The idea behind inherited money is that the person that earned the money has a right to leave it to whoever the hell they want to. I guess you would rather have the government get it all?
I got married for the 3rd time when I was over 50. She wanted a pre-nup because she had slightly greater assets than I did. I had no objection, and said so, because I had a business, a house, etc.
We didn't get around to it.
Disastrous mistake! During the divorce, which was no-fault, she came after everything I had, full-bore. (And no, nobody strayed/cheated/abused or anything like that.)
She walked away with probably $20,000 worth of items to which she was legally but not morally entitled. I say "not morally," because we had an oral agreement about who bought what, with whose money, etc. etc., and who "owned" it. Of course that oral agreement had no legal standing whatsoever.
So I'd say -- go ahead and sign it, but of course only after understanding what you're really agreeing to.
Alberto wrote:
If either of you believe break-up is at all POSSIBLE, then don't marry.
If either of you believe break-up is IMPOSSIBLE, then don't marry. You are living in a fairy land and people with their heads in the clouds don't make good partners.
M3D3 wrote:
I got married for the 3rd time
Some people are slow learners.
It really comes down on what the terms of the pre-nup are. If it says that both you and your spouse keep the money and property that you brought to the marriage and split everything you earned during the marriage evenly if you get divorced that would appear reasonable to some people. On the otherhand, you may end up becoming the stay at home Dad, if you earn less than the cost of child care. That's great if it floats your boat, but not so great if you want to teach.
Actually Dan, I hate to say it but you have to not let your feelings get hurt on this one. Whatever you both have coming into the marriage was there before the other. So, make it apply both ways. anything you develop that is new and done while you are married should not be considered part of the prenuptual even if some of the money came from the prenup funds. if you divorce 12 years down the line, whatever is not touched of the prenup funds remains hers.
its complicated, get a good attorney to make sure the words are right.
Make sure that what you jouintly earn during the marriage is split evenly. Have you ever talked about going for an additional degree? If so, it could get complicated on who pays tuition, do you pay her back for the loan, is she entitled to part of your earnings that arise out of the loan for your advanced degree?
Two differing standpoints.
jo ho wrote:The idea behind inherited money is that the person that earned the money has a right to leave it to whoever the hell they want to. I guess you would rather have the government get it all?
Not really. I'd rather that parents be smart enough to realize that just because they love their kids dosen't mean they should give them a free ride. The right to leave money to who you want notwithstanding, inheriting it dosen't make you earn it.
I guess you'd rather suck on your mom's teat til' the day you die?
prenup power up wrote:
If she feels she needs a prenup, then she doesn't trust you enough to get married. Find someone else.
TOTALLY AGREE!
Mr. Price wrote:
jo ho wrote:The idea behind inherited money is that the person that earned the money has a right to leave it to whoever the hell they want to. I guess you would rather have the government get it all?Not really. I'd rather that parents be smart enough to realize that just because they love their kids dosen't mean they should give them a free ride. The right to leave money to who you want notwithstanding, inheriting it dosen't make you earn it.
I guess you'd rather suck on your mom's teat til' the day you die?
So who should get it? Why work hard if you can't leave your earnings to people you love?
Mr. Price wrote:
Spoken like a trust fund baby. The arguments for inherited wealth (beyond a few things like sentimental property, a college education, etc...) are stupid. How bout' you earn your own wealth without relying on "ma" and "pa." Sign the pre-nup, but not because it's "her" property. Do it because it'll make her feel a lot more comfortable.
Spoken like a welfare baby. Whoever earns the money can do with it as they please, and if that means gifting it, that's their prerogative.
themanontherun wrote:Spoken like a welfare baby. Whoever earns the money can do with it as they please, and if that means gifting it, that's their prerogative.
Welfare? Nope. I'm middle-middle class here.
Just own up to it. You don't care about hard work and individual merit. It's their prerogative, yes, but it's also stupid.
As for who gets it? Here's a novel idea: gift it to a group or person who deserves it.
Excuseme if I sound old fashion but ...
If two people are marrying it is because they WANT to share everything they have in life. Not they should, or must, or have to, or could. They WANT to share all they have.
Does either of you two have anything that prefer not to share with the other, at any time of your/her life? Fine, not a problem. Just better not to marry.
just listen to a few Justin Bieber songs and everything will be all right, i promise.