SUNY Geneseo XC/TF program

what are your times?

430miler wrote:

Hi,

I am a long distance hs runner who is interested in finding out about SUNY Geneseo's cross country and track program. I was wondering if there is anyone on here who would know about it. I know the academics are good, but there are a few things I'd like to know about the track program before contacting the coach.

what kind of training do the long distance guys do? (mileage, workouts, do they have a history of burning out, etc.)

how serious is the team about running?

also, I heard the coach may be retiring. How soon and who will replace him?

any help would be appreciated!

i am only a junior, but my times currently this season are 4:27 1600m, 2:04 800m, and 9:55 3200.

anyone?

I don't go there, but i know they have a very good D3 program. They get good guys and usually make them better.

Thats all i know

U throw enough crap at the wall, some of it will stick

Look at how big their roster is. A good number of So/Jr.s dont return to the team due to lack of racing. Woods is the man though...such a hippie.

430miler wrote:

Hi,

I am a long distance hs runner who is interested in finding out about SUNY Geneseo's cross country and track program. I was wondering if there is anyone on here who would know about it. I know the academics are good, but there are a few things I'd like to know about the track program before contacting the coach.

what kind of training do the long distance guys do? (mileage, workouts, do they have a history of burning out, etc.)

how serious is the team about running?

also, I heard the coach may be retiring. How soon and who will replace him?

any help would be appreciated!

Hey-

Geneseo is good. I know some of their runners and they like it.

Not sure about training but I think they do a lot of aerobic threshold, LT, etc... semi-daniels based stuff I image. Not positive on that. Very long term development based. Regardless, they have lots of good runners and a big base of alumni who were/are fast that like to come and support the team. They always put a lot of focus on the SUNYAC meet. They have some runners who were very fast in HS that don't get too much faster. They have some who were OK runners that are great now. Lots of people are on the team. It looks like they have fun too.

Woods is the coolest dude around. I heard a couple of years ago that he might be loosing it a little bit (getting old/crazy/senile) but to me it seems that he is still as good as ever.

Other options to consider in the SUNYAC/close by might be Fredonia if they don't drop Jeff Beck or if he sticks around. Everything he is touching is turning to gold lately. Also, Brian Cole, the old coach from Ohio Northern just set up shop in Brockport--he has a history of creating/being affiliated with programs that develop big name middle distance guys. Don't know about their training, but if you are looking to run fast mid distance you might want to look at these schools--although geneseo has a good history of mid d guys as well.

Overall, right now Geneseo looks like a solid bet. Good luck.

if you're looking at SUNY:

for the 800/mile - Oneonta

for the 5k/10k - Plattsburgh

you'll thank me later

clarksonxc wrote:

if you're looking at SUNY:

for the 800/mile - Oneonta

for the 5k/10k - Plattsburgh

you'll thank me later

This is a true fact, I'm at a D3 school in NY so I race the SUNYs all the time and know people from all of them. Go Plattsburgh.

430miler wrote:

Hi,

I am a long distance hs runner who is interested in finding out about SUNY Geneseo's cross country and track program. I was wondering if there is anyone on here who would know about it. I know the academics are good, but there are a few things I'd like to know about the track program before contacting the coach.

what kind of training do the long distance guys do? (mileage, workouts, do they have a history of burning out, etc.)

how serious is the team about running?

also, I heard the coach may be retiring. How soon and who will replace him?

any help would be appreciated!

I'm on the team.

Mileage - guys do anywhere from 45 - 100 miles a week. It's really up to you, depending on your event. 800/1500 guys run between 45 and 70 mpw, 5k/10k/steeple will be 60-100 mpw. Mileage is looked at as a progression, Woods won't make you run way more than you can handle freshman year.

Workouts - big emphasis on marathon pace/tempo workouts. Some intervals near the end of XC and during the end of indoor and into the outdoor season. 1-2 workouts a week.

Burning out - some freshman struggle when they come in since they aren't used to running mileage, or came from a very different system. By sophomore year, most people will improve. I ran about equal to what I did in HS my freshman year, then sophomore (this year) I've dropped about 15 secs off my HS 1600 time (if you convert from 1500) and 3 seconds off my 800. There's a great hard-working atmosphere on the team that really can get you through some initial rough patches.

Retirement - Woodsy isn't planning on going anywhere, anytime soon, so you don't have to worry about that.

Your times are definitely something that Coach Woods would be interested in, get in contact with him!

thanks for the help everyone! will definitely be looking more into Geneseo as well as the other SUNY's.

The only weakness I see with them is they've had trouble developing their best 800m recruits. A lot of them have ended up moving up to the 1500m/mile (with success) but most of them have stayed at the same time in the 800 as they were in HS or gotten slightly slower. No such problems with the 1500 - 10k though. Solid program, and should be for some time.

I'm looking at guys like Lee Gabler, Kevin Bronson, Tim Kramer... they're all very good 1500m runners now though.

sunyg, what is the training environment like there?

concrete roads vs trails, hills vs real flat, etc?

430miler wrote:

sunyg, what is the training environment like there?

concrete roads vs trails, hills vs real flat, etc?

There is a good mix of hills and flats. Some runs have some nasty hills in them, some are pancake flat. Depends where you go.

We don't have a ton of trails but the ones we have are pretty good. Theres a small network off of the north side of campus. Theres also a very long trail in the valley that we do all of our long runs and threshold runs on. There are also some dirt roads that you can run on. The road runs are pretty good though, and on a lot of them you can run on the grass/dirt on the side of the road.

There's also a grass/dirt loop down at the airport that we do all of our XC workouts on.

not to be a bother, but looking at a school who doesn't overwork or ruin their guys is a big deal to me. i see that some of the guys at the SUNY G open ran incredibly slow times compared to their normal (chris mateer 16:44 or ryan o'connor in 15:19). is there a reason for this? were they tempoing?

I heard the entire geneseo team was going to get frosted and cornrolls next year for xc.

Suny G is falling apart at the seams. With El Berub running "meager" races by anyones standards its unlikely Geneseo will even score many points distance-wise at SUNYACS. Woods will be retiring in the next 2-3 years. He said that just at this recent home meet.

they seem to be to busy sucking dick instead of running at meets that count at the end of the year.