Big 10 Minnesota

badger believes wrote:

Bolas will easily be top 5 at 1500m. He has a PR of 3:37. That is over 3 seconds faster than anyone but his teammate Miller.

Yes, but that was last year and he has been injured and is just rounding into form -- He ran 1:50-low (PR possibly) on a cold and windy day so he clearly is getting there but I suspect that he is a long ways from 3:37 shape. He looked like his old self Saturday night but that covers ground from 3:37 (he's not there yet) to 3:45 (he is better than that). He is listed on the initial entries for both the 800 and 1500.

Note that

5000m

39 Ahmed, Mohammed FR Wisconsin NT

10000m

18 Ahmed, Mohammed FR Wisconsin NT

26mi235 wrote:

badger believes wrote:

Bolas will easily be top 5 at 1500m. He has a PR of 3:37. That is over 3 seconds faster than anyone but his teammate Miller.

Yes, but that was last year and he has been injured and is just rounding into form -- He ran 1:50-low (PR possibly) on a cold and windy day so he clearly is getting there but I suspect that he is a long ways from 3:37 shape. He looked like his old self Saturday night but that covers ground from 3:37 (he's not there yet) to 3:45 (he is better than that). He is listed on the initial entries for both the 800 and 1500.

Note that

5000m

39 Ahmed, Mohammed FR Wisconsin NT

10000m

18 Ahmed, Mohammed FR Wisconsin NT

If the 5,000 & 10,000 are slow (particularly the 5,000) then don't expect Ahmed to stay on his feet. Never have I seen a runner more inept at running in a crowd (2010 indoor 5,000)....just an observation, no malice intended.

If that's the case then why doesn't Ahmed just drop everybody early and run a controlled hard 5000? Coming off of the double that may be hard and I suppose that's the main reason that times are always slow but can't a 13:30 runner run a 13:45-50? THe meet records in the distances are like 25 years old.

Silly Old Fossil wrote:[/b

If the 5,000 & 10,000 are slow (particularly the 5,000) then don't expect Ahmed to stay on his feet. Never have I seen a runner more inept at running in a crowd (2010 indoor 5,000)....just an observation, no malice intended.

Ahmed didn't seem to have any problems running in a crowd last Saturday night. Of course, Rombough wasn't in the field....just an observation, no malice intended.

Why would the Badgers waste Ahmed's eligibility when there is nobody but Lex Williams and Chris Rombough in the 5k and 10k. They'll score 4 guys in each event easily!

Badgers can win for sure; Minnesota isn't going to have the kind of dream meet they had indoors!

Wisconsin doesn't have a fourth in the 10K without Ahmed. If they are looking to have any of the four 10K guys qualified for Regionals in the 10K, they will have to get the time on Friday night and it will have to be sub-30.

If he's healthy and can help, run him now.

George Webbs wrote:

If that's the case then why doesn't Ahmed just drop everybody early and run a controlled hard 5000? Coming off of the double that may be hard and I suppose that's the main reason that times are always slow but can't a 13:30 runner run a 13:45-50? THe meet records in the distances are like 25 years old.

I guess I confused him with Mead. I realize he isn't a 13:30 runner yet.

Wisconsin guys need regional qualifiers in the 10. Should be an honest race.

Will take 30:00 to make Nationals; will be the same old jogging as it always is.

800

1st Loxsom

2nd Foster

3rd Sowinski

4th Abdu

5th Williams

6th Dawson

7th Beth

8th See

1500

1st Miller

2nd Bayer

3rd See

4th Foster (doubling from 800)

5th Finnerty

6th Blankenship

7th Bolas

8th Borchers

STEEPLE

1st Gasper

2nd Poore

3rd Turner

4th Green

5th Shields

6th Forys

7th Beatty

8th Leslie

5000

1st Rombough

2nd Bayer

3rd Peacock

4th Miller

5th Williams

6th Blankenship

7th Ahmed

8th Darling

10k

1st Williams

2nd Rombough

3rd Ahmed

4th Peacock

5th Krause

6th Darling

7th Torchia

8th April

WISCONSIN 65

MINNESOTA 31

PSU 26

MICHIGAN 17

OSU 13

IOWA 6

MSU 2

If that breakdown is even close, Wisconsin wins going away. Problem is, I can see it happening and maybe even a little better! 800 with Beth and Rucks could add some more where Minnesota only has Abdu!

Foster isnt doubling according to the entries. 1500 only. What are the chances See runs all 3 events?

Big Ten travel limit is 34 athletes.

These entries mean nothing at all.

Teams have until tomorrow evening to have completely different entries; just helps meets management get a head start on some names.

Ahmed won't run and waste eligibility.

See will do 800 and 1500 double but won't run 5000.

Foster and probably Dawson will double; they need to hit big in 800 and 1500 if they want to crack top 3.

IU is a top 3 team at least!

Bayer and Poore and Turner will hold distance.

4 x 1 and sprinters solid.

Drouin guaranteed.

Coover guaranteed.

Tripler guaranteed.

They're at home too!

The time gap for the start of the 1500 and 800 trials is 2:25, very doable. For the finals it's 53 minutes.

So we're talking a high 3:40's 1500 and then a 1:50 800 on Saturday. Then 20 hours later a 1500 that could be from 3:43 to 4:05 (and good luck with that 4:05 if Thode makes the final or anybody else letting it go out slow if Foster is in the final). Then a sub 1:50 800 less than an hour later. That is completely insane.

Penn State isn't in the team race, so if Foster wants to do it, let the kid eat. Ohio State is in the team race and I don't see that as an efficient use of See. I think there is a better chance of See doing the 1500/Steeple/5000 (get out quick if he's got nothing in the 5000) than the 800/1500. I'm guessing See will do the 1500/5000. Still 50/50 on Foster in the 800 or 1500, I don't see him doing both.

Team tactics in the 800 final could slow things way down and kick with 4 Nittany Lions in the finals. Not another big name half-miler in the conference. They need some more solid guys in 1500 final besides Borchers who could win or be last regardless of pace.

Where is this Jeff See steeple stuff coming from? I didn't know he ever ran one? They should go 1500 and 800 (the guy has great speed and strength to handle those races). He has never scored a single point in the conference 5k (even when 14:30 would've scored!)

Minnesota and Wisconsin for the team title.

Iowa, OSU, and maybe IU because they're at home will battle for 3rd.

MSU is very, very bad. Is there a hot seat in East Lansing?

Are the Illinois men's coaches fighting for their jobs next year this weekend?

Illinois staff is set. Turk will be head with Wendell head cross country. They will either hire a sprints coach or have a pseudo-combined program like Wisconsin and Iowa currently have.

MINNESOTA 132

WISCONSIN 119

IOWA 108

OSU 100

INDIANA 91

PSU 72

PURDUE 41

ILLINOIS 40

MICHIGAN 37

MSU 31

Just read press release regarding Ahmed and he will be racing. I can assure you that Nutty knows the conference better than any of these coaches and he must think they can win it if they're going to use eligibility starting at conference! Expect a fast 10k with Badgers taking care of NCAA qualifying and expect some serious distance points. I saw where 80 points from 800-10,000 was predicted in an earlier post and I could actually see more.

Badgers are back!