Safe and Secure wrote:
I only visited 2 dealers.
Granted, I had to drive over there numerous times, but I believe I saved a good deal more than $200.
If you are impulsive and need to have a car THAT day, you will not get the best price. I'll say it again, the ability to walk is what gets you the best price.
Honestly Flagpole, we are talking tens of thousands of dollars. You drive to the CVS for a $20 purchase, I think you can make 2 or 3 visits to the dealership to save a few thousand.
Nah. Dude, your way does NOT save tens of thousands over my way...no freakin' way. Go in with the invoice, tell them you know about the hold back, make a decision on what you will pay based on all that, and it is well below invoice every time, so no way are you getting tens of thousands of dollars better than that. You should have stopped before after I already told you that if you want to do what you did to maybe do $200 better than what I would get (because I was agreeing with you there that if you want to do that that it would work), but now that you've said you will save tens of thousands over what I could get...nah...now you and I are in disagreement for the simple fact that you are wrong.
Also, I agree that you have to be prepared to walk away. The thing is that when presented with the facts (that you know how their pricing works and they see you holding the invoice and that you know about their hold back) and you make them a fair offer based on that (I WANT the sales guy to make a LITTLE bit off the sale) then they would be foolish to balk on that offer. You want to spend all that extra time getting MAYBE $200 less than just going in there with a fair yet advantageous offer, then go right ahead. As I said earlier, that isn't worth it to me. Car buying is simple:
1) Do the research on what you should be paying.
2) Tell them you want car X on the lot (the car has to be on the lot to get the best deal).
3) Show them the invoice and tell them you know about their pricing and hold back and then make a fair offer (this will always be well below invoice price).
Anything more than that is too much work for too little gain in my opinion.