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14 years ago 06/17/2009 5:43pm EDT

re: wait...

You left out Anita Campbell for UW who was just 3rd at 10K. And since Blood and Kosinski were nominally the best Oregon XC runners last year and got their a$$e$ handed to them by UW at Pac-10 and XC natls last year, I would be very surprised if Oregon was much competition in 2009 XC. I'll also be very surprised if Hasay does better than Babcock's top 10 finish last year.

I couldn't agree more with So Incredibly Tired, UW did it last year with a very deep team. Only Schaaf was realistically capable of running for the natl title. Lawrence and Campbell have improved a lot this track season. Who knows how Schaaf comes back but I'd give the nod to the defending champs until proven otherwise.

14 years ago 06/17/2009 5:48pm EDT

re: easy does it

Pretty sure Campbell is a senior and graduating next year?

And Kosinski was right behind Babcock at Nationals and ahead of Schaaf.

14 years ago 06/17/2009 6:25pm EDT

re: Okie From Muskogee

I don't understand why everyone hates Metcalf and Washington. I live on the East Coast and don't know any of the people involved but you're looking at a team that had one of the best XC teams in the last ten years and then qualified five people for outdoor nationals, had two place in the top 3, and didn't run their top girl from cross. Yes, a lot of those women were pretty amazing recruits but EVERY big school gets stud recruits and if they don't that's their fault.

I would even argue that the men who are constantly ridiculed for underachieveing do about what's expected. Abbot wasn't a superstar in high school and is a multiple time all-american. They had a guy in the 10k (who bombed but he's still a sub 29 guy) and they were a top 20 team in cross.

Is Metcalf really that much of a dick?

14 years ago 06/17/2009 6:31pm EDT

re: freeknowledge

No dog in this fight, but especially on the mens side there have been a lot of top runners especially from the PNW who dissapear at Washington. A LOT.

However, cross country running does not translate to the track and track does not translate to cross country. It may be more the acception than the rule that someone rocks cross country and then comes and rocks track.

Just ask Paul Tergat and Geb.

14 years ago 06/17/2009 6:39pm EDT

re: freeknowledge

No, it's the fact that Kelly Macdonald-Strong did all the work (like recruiting) and Metcalf tries to steal credit for it.

14 years ago 06/17/2009 6:45pm EDT

re: wait...

OK, you got me on Kosinski at natls and Blood was also between Babcock and Schaaf, I just checked the results again. Campbell is a junior and is back next year. Campbell was UW's 7th runner at natls in 51st. Scherf was Oregon's 4th runner in 48th, 5-6-7 were all behind Campbell. UW returns top 7 except for Amanda Miller. Scherf and Bridgmon are both listed as seniors on the results but apparently Scherf still has eligibility based on what you've said. No matter how you stack it UW looks stronger unless the Oregon incoming frosh are all up there with Blood and Kosinski.

14 years ago 06/17/2009 6:52pm EDT

re: easy does it

Umm.. ever heard of Jordan Hasay?

14 years ago 06/17/2009 7:07pm EDT

re: easy does it

Anita is done for cross and has one more track season. I expect Kailey Campbell to step up and fill the void somewhat; not sure on recruiting.

Agree w/the baoveabout the Metcalf/Strong situ. It certainly helps explain the men/women's disparity.

14 years ago 06/17/2009 7:11pm EDT

re: blacklist

They get Lindsey Flanagan from IL who was top 10 at FL.

14 years ago 06/17/2009 11:54pm EDT

re: blacklist

what about jimmy bean??

14 years ago 06/18/2009 12:01am EDT

re: easy does it

Is it true Bridgmon might also have eligibility (medical RS reasons)?

14 years ago 07/04/2009 5:17pm EDT

re: ?????????

Schaaf looks to be running pretty well in Canada... did very well at nationals (junior).

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