are they better than other trainers,
I bought some yesterday, very cheap, very comfortable and very flexible with a sensible low heel.
just leather uppers, rubber sole, let's see how they last.
anyone else want to share their experience, with the new, old style?
Brand name?
Model name?
Pretty incoherent post Jonny.
Just some cheap brand I've never heard of. I've always bought expensive name brand trainers at knock down prices like most runners.
some recent threads talked about these new shoes that are actually old models from the 50's, 60's and 70's with a lower heel
a lower heel is really what we should all be running in, from a biomechanical point of view.
I've actually been racing barefoot on the track this year, and you know what? it feels great. who needs a heel on their shoes anyway? you dont get much heel on a spike shoe because you dont need it.
also a rubber sole with no foam should last a lot longer without deforming. I hope so.
look in fashion shoe shops and you will see many retro styles. many of them look and feel (to touch) really good for running in or even racing I suspect. it wont be long before NIKE ADIDAS and co are forced to respond to the new market.
Sensible low heels? Are you a lesbian?
hedgehog wrote:
Sensible low heels? Are you a lesbian?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. This has alotta 'umor.
You approach Buttafuco territory with this one.
hedgehog wrote:
Sensible low heels? Are you a lesbian?
no, but my girlfreind is
Sweet.
chuck d am I missing something? maybe I need to get out more, but she follows me everywhere, she's so jealous and posessive.
she may be crazy, but the sex is amazing
Too bad she's having sex with a chick instead of you. That sucks!
Hmm...
its not so bad, sometimes they let me join in
Oh. Because they're not lesbians. Now you're confusing me.
JonnyO, she's just using you,
get real fool
Getting back to the point...
I have done some running in a pair of Asics Tiger Tai Chis - retro trainers, upper and rubber sole, but not much else. Took me a while to get the courage to use them on tarmac, but did loads on grass and off road. Now running in NB150s which seem to have the heel LOWER than the ball of the foot, due to having some forefoot cushioning and no heel cushioning. Best shoes I ever had!
If I'm right in remembering you are UK based, JO, I can direct you to where you can pick them up (the NB150s) for £25 a pair (£20 each for 5 pairs) instead of the usual £60. I just got 7 pairs as they have been discontinued by NB. They are about the same weight as the Mayfly and will last for ages!
Pantman,
How much do they weigh, and where do you get the good prices?
Are you sure the heel is actually lower.
I prefer them the same height.
I think they are Dunes, but only ever so slightly. They really are the best shoes I have found for those wanting their feet to do the work and not the shoe.
I don't want heel cushioning as I don't land there. There is a bit of cushioning under the ball of the foot where I do land, but not so much as to prevent me from getting the response I need from "feeling" the ground. No medial support or anything like it. Just a very well made, comfortable and sturdy shoe that should last a good 1000 miles - all at about the same weight as the Mayflys whcih are sold on the basis that they WILL be useless after 100km and also have you too high of the ground to be stable. I think the NB150s are 7g more than Mayflys.
The 150s are being discontinued in the UK, hence the clearout prices. But I am pretty sure they are being discontinued in US too. So ask NB for a good deal!
What I dislike about most "minimalist racers" is that they are often still to high from the ground and they often have medial support or similar. NB150s were the ONLY ones I could find with neither.
Pantman wrote:
Getting back to the point...
I have done some running in a pair of Asics Tiger Tai Chis - retro trainers, upper and rubber sole, but not much else. Took me a while to get the courage to use them on tarmac, but did loads on grass and off road. Now running in NB150s which seem to have the heel LOWER than the ball of the foot, due to having some forefoot cushioning and no heel cushioning. Best shoes I ever had!
If I'm right in remembering you are UK based, JO, I can direct you to where you can pick them up (the NB150s) for £25 a pair (£20 each for 5 pairs) instead of the usual £60. I just got 7 pairs as they have been discontinued by NB. They are about the same weight as the Mayfly and will last for ages!
Pantman,
thannks for your reply, about time somebody actually answered my question seriously.
this really has been the strangest thread, not what I expected at all. I just couldnt believe some of the things I was reading. it took me several minutes to type some of my replies because I couldn't stop laughing.
yes I am uk based, Pantman.
do the Asics Tiger Tai Chis or NB 150'S have a solid rubber sole? that's what I'm trying to discuss on this thread, whether solid rubber is better than eva foam which starts to compress and deform from the moment you start walking or running?
when did shoe companies stop using solid rubber soles and start using foam?
also, I hope people will soon realise that a raised heel is bad for our feet, ankles and knees etc. and a low heel gives
a much more powerful running action.
cheers, JonnyO
Jonny,
The TaiChis were bought at Bluewater of all places - rubber soles only - not even a tiny bit of foam.
The 150s have a little foam, but minimal. They are MUCH lower to the ground than most racers I have seen (mayflys, tiger paws, etc..)
Totally with you on the heels!
Pantman,
where is Bluewater, and where d'you buy the 150's?
Bluewater is the biggest shopping "mall" in UK - just below Dartford crossing in Kent.
Call Fast Feet Sports in Bishops Stortford. Ask for Paul and tell him that Anthony said he could get you NB150s at £25 a pair from him.
01279 504740
Web link below.
I take 1/2 size bigger in NB than in Asics or Nike, FWIW. E-mail me if I can help more.