This will be just like high school in Georgia in some of the big meets, where the 2 mile isn't run or is run out of sequence. You run the 300H, then come right back and run a leg on the 4x400. He had lots of practice doing it ten or so years ago. His body just might remember.
Looks like AT is in lane one for the hurdles final and the last prelim of the flat.
Heat 4 Prelims
1
2 1194 Calvin Smith unattached
3 1259 Angelo Taylor Nike
4 196 Fernada Blakely unattached
5 663 Quentin Iglehart-Summers Baylor
6 1328 Tyree Washington unattached
7 929 Drew Morano Colorado St.
8 203 Jordan Boase Washington
So at least they put him in the last prelim, which also looks to be the weakest. Can he make it in both?
He won in Sydney from Lane 1 . . . .
This seems to be a massive ask, I can see him not qualifying in the hurdles as I would expect Jackson and Clement to have the first 2 places sewn up, and then the rest seem fairly open, and then he is going to have to come back extremely quickly to run a 45. 400 to get through the heat, and then quite possibly a low 44 if he can make it to the final having already run heats, semis and finals of both
Full respect if he does it
dudes gonna be tired wrote:
Looks like AT is in lane one for the hurdles final and the last prelim of the flat.
Heat 4 Prelims
1
2 1194 Calvin Smith unattached
3 1259 Angelo Taylor Nike
4 196 Fernada Blakely unattached
5 663 Quentin Iglehart-Summers Baylor
6 1328 Tyree Washington unattached
7 929 Drew Morano Colorado St.
8 203 Jordan Boase Washington
So at least they put him in the last prelim, which also looks to be the weakest. Can he make it in both?
It's 3 plus 4 and Smith and Boase are probably safe bets to beat Taylor. That means he's likely got to beat I-S or Blakely for the last spot or hope his heat goes fast enough.
decisions wrote:
He's declared in both, but the first round of the open is like seven minutes after the hurdles final on Sunday.
If you've ever run at a meet you know that time means absolutely nothing. While they try to run close to schedule it never happens. You also have to remember that it will be the first heat that goes off after the 400m hurdles, and we don't know which heat he will be in. He will have plenty of time to rest enough to get through the first round of the open 400m. And actually he has zero chance of making the team in the 400m though he will be in the final. I see no reason why he would miss making the team in the hurdles and I wouldn't be surprised if he drops out of the open after making the team. The only reason he is really running it is to try to get a spot on our 4x 400m relay team. If he places 2nd or 3rd in the hurdles as I expect and then places 4th in the open, he should be on the relay.
If you've ever read heat sheets, especially when they're posted on the same thread on which you're posting, you'd know he's in the last heat of the prelims. Plenty of time to rest? I don't care who you are, that is not plenty of time to rest. Nowhere near plenty.
Are you guys all serious right now? Those guys are 44:6 and above. he has run 44:0's there is a huge difference. What have Boase ever done? AT has won Olympic gold, and world bronze. AT is not even comparable to those guys and is on an entirely different level.
ChigboC wrote:
If you've ever run at a meet you know that time means absolutely nothing. While they try to run close to schedule it never happens. .
Sorry but you are missing the entire point, and are sounding beyond ridiculous. If you've ever been to a meet, you would know the time difference between one event and the next, is completely irrelevant to how much an entire meet get's odd schedule through all the events. It doesn't matter if all the events prior to the 400h's push the meet back 30 minutes, the 400 will still be right after the 400h's delay or not. That's what you need to get. Your point is this
On Time
400h 2:30
400 2:35
Delayed
400h 3:15
400 3:20
No different in rest time. (i made up the start times for commparison). Point is a delay in schedule means nothing.
male nymph wrote:
Are you guys all serious right now? Those guys are 44:6 and above. he has run 44:0's there is a huge difference. What have Boase ever done? AT has won Olympic gold, and world bronze. AT is not even comparable to those guys and is on an entirely different level.
You would be correct if he had not run a 400IH final probably only 20 - 25 mins before. It will take a huge amount out of him and if he does make it to the next round, what will it do to him for the rest of the rounds. Figure it will take 45.4 - 45.8 to make it out and while the other favorites are cruising through, he has to run pretty much all out.
My guess its 50/50 his lane will be empty if he makes the team in the IH. If he does not, I think he runs and squeaks by in 3rd but after is in dire need of an ice bath......
I am sure that Angelo has a nice incentive bonus clause in his contract if he makes both the 400 and 400h team. $ is his motivation
one down.
DNF
It always seemed crazy to me that there weren't better schedules for this double. There have been many very fast 400m hurdlers who could have done well in open 400m.
AT made the team in the 400h. And he went out there to run the 400 flat 7 MINUTES after the 400h final. He did a DNF in the 400, but IT TAKES BALLS to even attempt that.
His time would've been slower than his time over the hurdles if he had finished. That probably didn't feel good.
Is it possible for him to be on the 4x4?
It's possible...providing he doesn't find some cute Chinese teenage girls first.
But the guy who finishes fourth in the 400 has a say in it, and there's a certain fellow named Tyson Gay who wants to be on that 4X4. Also, Kerron Clement who is one of the best 400 guys in the world.
faster than Taylor, last year's US 400m champion?
7 minutes haha yeah right. It was a bit over 20 minutes, which just wasn't enough time to pull it off. He would have needed an hour in between in order to make the next round in the open 400m. Not that I think he would make the team in the open 400m anyway, as he barely made the team for the hurdles which is his better event. He now has zero chance of being on the 4X400m relay which means he also has zero chance of getting an Olympic gold medal.
jesus dude...get a clue..
he was 3rd at WORLDS last year in the open 400...
he has the 3rd fastest PR (run less than 1 year ago) of anyone available for a 4x400m relay..
AND, to get a gold medal he need not be included in the final 4x400, if he runs in the rounds he collects a medal too...
id go so far as to say right now, it would be foolish to not at least run him in the rounds, as he's certainly in our nations top 5 400m runners..