4:44.79 2km run, what is worth for:
1 mile
5km
10km
One hour
4:44.79 2km run, what is worth for:
1 mile
5km
10km
One hour
This is what I got from the tables.
1290 points
1:11.71 600m
1:41.11 800m
2:10.40 1000m
3:26.88 1500m
3:43.29 mile
4:44.79 2000m
5:05.41 2000m sc (if anyone cares)
7:22.15 3000m
7:54.17 3000m sc
7:56.43 2mile
12:38.55 5000m
26:20.97 10,000m
2,000 m 4:44.79 Hicham El Guerrouj
MAR Berlin, DEU 1999-Sep-07
What are you looking for?
I don't know what it's worth. I know that it's probably going to last a very long time as a record. I can't believe the 1500 record is now ten years old, and I can't imagine anyone getting close to it any time soon (who knows, though - maybe Kaki will move up and bust a 3:27 in his first ever 1500).
And in case anyone's interested, the iaaf tables say this about the the 2:26.00 for 1500.
1303 points
1:11.41 600m
1:40.69 800m
2:09.85 1000m
3:25.98 1500m (3:26.05 is 1302 points)
3:42.32 mile
4:43.57 2000m
5:03.63 2000m sc
7:20.15 3000m (Komen's WR is 7:20.67)
7:51.43 3000m sc
7:54.27 2mile
12:35.13 5000m
26:13.09 10,000m
Obviously the iaaf tables shouldn't be taken as absolute law, especially when comparing 1500 and mile times, but it's interesting to see how they break it down.
Purdy:
Mile: 3:45.75
5,000: 12:38.39
10,000: 26:30.97
No data on one hour from this calculator.
That's a hell of a coincidence that the 2000m WR has the exact same point value as the 800m WR.
we are talking hicham so that time relates to him & no one else
surprisingly that time is a coupla secs slower than his hypothetical best ( he may have gone quicker if he spent a season running only 2ks )
using this :
hicham's best line of fit for '97 is off
~ 47.6 / 1'42.8
( give or take a few 100ths/tenth either side )
->~
2'11.56
3'25.67
3'42.22
4'42.12
7'19.85
12'48.08
27'11.17
his 2k wr is over 2s slower than it reckons he couda run if he'd spent all season running it
also interesting for him, a 4'42 hypothetical is = 27'11, so there is little point wondering how 4'44 ( or 4'42 ) might relate to other distances - to hicham, running a 4'42 wouda been as hard as running a 27'11
that is just a coincidence
remeber though that kip's previous 1'41.2wr ( his "greatest" run ) was run off a suicidal 48.5
if he'd run a more sensible 49.5 - 50.0, the record woud probably been around the 1'40.5 mark that day - i'd check iaaf values for that
just to add, hicham's 3'26.00 was worth a bit faster - he was too slow at the bell : iirc ~ 2'32.8 at bell & finished with an astonishing 53.8
nearer 3'25.5 with being dragged quicker thru 1100m
I agree entirely- if the damn pacemaker had gone out in 49.0 (and Kipketer a stride behind him) he would've come home well under 1:41.
Seems unrealistic to suggest that ElG was only two seconds off his potential best in the 5000 in his first race over that distance (12:50 to 12:48)!!! Especially when later he took the measure of the world record holder twice. And ran 12:52 in a non-rabbited situation.
Also, what values did you punch into that website? It seems that putting in the 1500 and 3000 (even though he ran it once) would be what to use, though, I am a bit hesitant to blindly follow a website when there is no mention of the algorithm that is used to get the result or how realistic they are.
that means that the pace for 444.79 is equal to passing the mile in 349.16 enroute to the 2k record, fast then john walker's 1975 time i think.anyone have the splits for the 2k record?
2krz wrote:
4:44.79 2km run, what is worth for:
1 mile
5km
10km
One hour
worth 2,068 rushing yards coupled with 21 touchdowns
worth a 36.4 ppg average with 8.4 rebounds and 5.5 assists
worth a 62 on the third day of the PGA Championship
worth a 21.44 for the 50m swim
worth 74 home runs in a season
worth 11 goals scored in the world cup
According to the feed (which was a bit fuzzy), splits for the leaders seemed to be:
56.70
1:54.94
2:52.21
3:49.60
Also check out this TFN thread and scroll down to Alan Sigmon's post:
http://mb.trackandfieldnews.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=20770&highlight=2000m+guerrouj
He has more detailed splits and analysis of the race (he is currently writing a book on the history of the 2000m event).
you are a smart guy
caveat is that this was his estimated potential for '97 ( when he'd never run a class 5k in his life ) - he was a miler then - with that particular speed/endurance mix, something around 12'48 was all that coud be possible
when he ran 12'52 ( probably a 12'48 as pace waned in 4th km as he sensed cherono was a big danger ) it was 6y later in '03 with change in speed/endurance characteristics - he was a different man from '97
'97 estimate was based on 47.6 / 1'42.8, suggestion is '03 version was maybe slower over these as a result of increased endurance/losing natural speed ( ageing will do it ), but still attempting to retain 1500
playing around with the input, i get a decent fit with :
48.1 / 1'43.45 ->
2'12.23
3'26.30
3'42.82
4'42.58
7'19.78
12'46.36
27'03.35
as for values punched in - it's those 400/800 times ( play around with them )
algorithm ?
not there, but i suppose that's that site's business
depends if you like the numbers or not...
sigmon appears a nice guy, but he's no mathematical analyst
he deprecates to julin who does appear to have some better "tools" - liking 3'26.00 to a "low-4'42"
main point is that any ratio is case-specific :
in '97 it's 4'42.12/3'25.67 = 1.372
in '03 it's 4'42.58/3'26.30 = 1.370
it varies...
Actually, KipK ran the first lap in 48.3, off of the rabbit's 48.1!
ventolin wrote:
that is just a coincidence
remeber though that kip's previous 1'41.2wr ( his "greatest" run ) was run off a suicidal 48.5
if he'd run a more sensible 49.5 - 50.0, the record woud probably been around the 1'40.5 mark that day - i'd check iaaf values for that