Coe = low mileage, Lindgren = WOW.....same results, how??

Trackhead....what the f*** you on about now....make your mind up....60 or 90!!! you use anectodal evidence and talk out of your ass. Go to the library and get the Coe and Martin book ASAP!

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I disagree. Most of it is silly quibbling about whether or not Coe counted his warmup miles and other silly nonsense. Not too much actual training info. The sub-1:50 800 thread is my nomination for GOAT thread.

Y2K wrote:

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Most runners can count, it isn't all too difficult.

Many many workouts in preparation require no

additional miles than listed.

Cooking the numbers (as the Lydiard crowd is prone) doesn't fly.

Multiple sources reporting Coe's volume closer

to 45-55 miles/week. Prior to LA 1984, the volume was even lower.

Coe and Martin published long after Coe retired. Much of what you read there

is Martin, not Coe.

Different strokes for different folks

Coe was an 800/1500 type.

A 1500/ 5k type is going to want more mileage. Or someone heavier might need it to get to racing weight.

3234 wrote:

Lindgren was a LONG distance runner.

Coe was a MIDDLE distance runner.

I think the training goes with the event.

Lindgren's best event was 3-miles. Not exactly a LONG distance.

yesstiles wrote:

3234 wrote:

Lindgren was a LONG distance runner.

Coe was a MIDDLE distance runner.

I think the training goes with the event.

Lindgren's best event was 3-miles. Not exactly a LONG distance.

Idk man. Running 4 min pace for 4 miles Xc, an unofficial 10 mile world record, and sub 2 hour marathon pace until the last quarter mile pass out and you think his best race was 3 miles? Did he even run a world record? At least in practice?

coe did some heavy lifting BUT coe did a lot of high repetition circuits. the muscular endurance gained from high reps body or light weight lifts can replace some mileage. Tudor Bompa reps

Work the middle work the mid.. wrote:

Different strokes for different folks

And the hardest part is finding what works for you.

End of thread.

Other options wrote:

yesstiles wrote:

Lindgren's best event was 3-miles. Not exactly a LONG distance.

Idk man. Running 4 min pace for 4 miles Xc, an unofficial 10 mile world record, and sub 2 hour marathon pace until the last quarter mile pass out and you think his best race was 3 miles? Did he even run a world record? At least in practice?

Well you could arguably say Lindgren was the best American 5000m runner ever. Why? He got closer to the World Record than any other American ever. He ran 12:53.0 for 3-miles in 1966 at age 20 in an NCAA Regional qualifier. The current WR was 12:52.4 Less than a second! The current 5000m WR was 13:24. Both those 3-mile times were superior. Lindgren's time converts to 13:20.9. Track & Field News supports this as well.

But to be fair, it was an extraordinary race that came out of nowhere after he had missed a week due to sickness and found himself in an unplanned for peak. Too bad he didn't put 2 & 2 together and take more tapers from his 160-mile weeks so he could run faster.

Bummer he missed the WR by only 0.6 seconds; running solo after the first mile on a dirt track on a cold and blustery spring day in Seattle.