Many have Jewish last names but are not real Jews. Don't confuse physical characteristics with religion.
Many have Jewish last names but are not real Jews. Don't confuse physical characteristics with religion.
Inner/Outer Ghetto wrote:
Many have Jewish last names but are not real Jews. Don't confuse physical characteristics with religion.
Are you saying that all Jews have similar physical characteristics? I hope not, but I'm not sure what you are saying, so in good spirit I'll assume not.
Anywho, You are Jewish if your mother was Jewish(acc. to religious Jews). And acc. to others as long as one of your parents was Jewish.
Or if you converted.
muhamed
Itay Maggidi (8:2x SC; Maccabi Games champion at 1500 meters)
Ofer Barniv (4:00.xx mile; Maccabi Games champion at 800 meters)
Adam Wallace (28:4x 10k; Maccabi games champion at 10k)
Plus Israel has lots of fast Ethiopian immigrants (or children of Ethiopian immigrants): Assaf Bimro, Haille Satyn and a few others I can't remember. Every time there is a world championship of the 1/2 marathon or of track that includes the marathon, Israel's team score is usually about 8th or so of all countries based on total time of the top three runners.
Jews are much better at swimming
muhammed ali and hicham el g were actaully jewish behind hte scenes.
Dan Middleman - 96 Oly Trials 10k team, although I recall he did not make the standard, went to run for Israel after the 96 games. Not sure of the details since his decision.
Russell Brown. Mom is, Dad not. Grandfather,Uncle, Great-Grandfather all rabbis.
Alan Webbenstein
Deena Kastor
Bernstein.
Smash.
Inner/Outer Ghetto wrote:
Many have Jewish last names but are not real Jews. Don't confuse physical characteristics with religion.
Disambiguation: Jew is generally taken to mean "of Jewish ancestry," not "currently a practioner of Judaism." Ethnicity is not religion.
Akiba of Distinction wrote:
Inner/Outer Ghetto wrote:Many have Jewish last names but are not real Jews. Don't confuse physical characteristics with religion.
Disambiguation: Jew is generally taken to mean "of Jewish ancestry," not "currently a practioner of Judaism." Ethnicity is not religion.
This is true. You can not know a thing about Judaism and still be Jewish. You can be an anti-semite and still be Jewish. Once you are Jewish you stay Jewish forever no matter what even if you convert out and so do all of your descendants through your female progeny if you are a woman. Judaism is unique in this (I think) in the fact that it has a dual meaning in that it is both a nation and a religion.
However, you can also have a Jewish last name but because your mother isn't Jewish, neither are you.
Marcus O'S. is not a Jew ! What are you bragging about.
"The only reason the Irish never persecuted the Jews is that they never let them in."
James Joyce
Jason Saretzky, coach of Columbia, is a Jew.
But he was an average athlete & a bit of a f@g to be honest.
Im big into the sport but all my family see no interest in making a job out of it & tell me to stop dreaming and concentrate on getting a real career. They encouraged me when I was younger but say now its time to stop. I find it mean & im sad that they cant see my ambition to suceed in sport.
Could the relative low number of Jewish athletes in professional sport be linked to the low estime of athletes in the community compared to other cultures or sub-cultures ?
The greatest U.S. Jewish Runner of all time was Lon Myers (held innumerable titles from roughly 1880 to 1910). Kiviat was very good. Glickman good, others of our scattered tribe all over the globe good, but all things considered, in his time, Lon Myers was recognized as the best by far)
Roman Catholic wrote:
Marcus O'S. is not a Jew ! What are you bragging about.
"The only reason the Irish never persecuted the Jews is that they never let them in."
James Joyce
That is Mr. Deasy speaking, I believe--the English Protestant schoolmaster.
"Could the relative low number of Jewish athletes in professional sport be linked to the low estime of athletes in the community compared to other cultures or sub-cultures ?"
To talk seriously about this, I remember my mom, when casually joking about running after high school, said "Jews don't do athletics in college, they study."
The first reason is that there are surprisingly very few Jews in the world. There are about 5 million in Israel, and only about 6 million in the US. That's about 2% of the US population . . . . and those 11 million are 11 out of the 13 million in the world.
For a country of only 5 million, I think Israel does very well in athletics. This would be like asking why Massachusetts doesn't have more homegrown track Olympians besides Kate O'Neill.
Furthermore, out of the 13 million a large portion, maybe 20 percent, are religious enough where athletics on Saturday is prohibited. Saturday is when many athletic competitions are held; member of Latter-Day Saints face the same problem on Sunday. It is possible to be as serious about Christianity like Ryan Hall and be a track athlete, but it is virtually impossible to be a Hasid and do athletics. Athletics would detract from religious study and praying - the two most important tasks of the day.
I strongly disagree with the 20% very religios number you are giving. In Israel I think its like 10-15% & that would be the highest number.
My own (limited maybe...) experience would more quantify it as 2% of very religious allthough I think the Jewish Community I associate myself with/grew up in is quite strong as well as our identity.
Former Butler runner, Scott Lidskin, is Jewish and ran 13:59 indoors. Is that fast enough to be considered fast?