oh yeah wrote:
in the article is says her vV02 max was 427
how come she can't run a sub 9 two mile then?
I may be wrong but vVO2 max is not 2 mile race pace for the majority of people. I am starting to believe that vVO2 max is more like 2000m-2400m race pace.
Thanks for pointing this out; I had not meant to point out Vigil's faults.
I posted the original question believing Vigil to a T and wondering what was up with Deena.
The poster who showed what 5:01 pace is for 8k through 1/2 marathon was very helpful.
Looking at Vigil's calculation of vVO2 in Running to the Top, he calculated vAT during a VO2max test based on mm/l of lactic acid and speed on the tread mill.
How does this lab calculated anaerobic threshold compare to the pace that can be hold for 10-13 miles by a trained athlete like Deena?
Deena is the best, no doubt. Vigil is the best, no doubt. I'm still waiting for table 2 and the reason they are no longer working together; as he is still coaching athletes.
It is also likely she achieved this vVo2max on a graded treadmill test only increasing speed. So the final speed at which you reach vVo2max you only hold for the 2 minutes during that stage of the test.
You really can't take any usefull information away from graded treadmill tests other than improvements relative to the test (ie: improvements over the course of time for that test). A better test would be an all-out run. At least that data would be more specific to what you are trying to do in training...increase race speed.
Alan
I agree, it seems the best way to test vAT would be to run 10-13 miles while producing 4mm/l of lactic acid or, as Vigil points out, at roughly 87% of maxHR.
The speed it takes to get the body producing 4mm/l of lactic acid in a short amount of time as on a tread mill test would yield a 20+ second/mile increase in speed for nearly anyone in comparison to what vAT is for 10+ miles.