Who won the Republican debate?

*None of what RP is lunacy*

I'm not sure I see what that has to do with the fact that he has been in office for a very long time and has not flip flopped or voted for anything he considers immoral or against the constitution. Tell me how he is nutty again?

I missed the debates when they aired, but watched the segments on Youtube.

Huck - I am not a Huck fan, but he played the crowd extremely well and I think he was the clear winner.

Tancredo - a joke.

Mccain - He used the Hitler card to justify the war and belittled Ron Paul and he got a loud applause. Very desperate and sad. I used to like Mccain. I think he's recently become possessed by Satan. (Yeah, I can use the Satan card since he used the Hitler one)

Ron Paul - well considering he got so little time, I can't really comment. But I cannot point to anyone else on the stage who feels more passionate about Republican conservative ideals and I clearly know how he stands on most issues.

Thompson - he just looks really unhealthy and confused on stage. No charisma. I don't recall anything he said. He needs a script.

Guilani and Romney - total joke. I thought their cat fight over illegal immigration was funny though.

ihateyou wrote:

I'm not sure I see what that has to do with the fact that he has been in office for a very long time and has not flip flopped or voted for anything he considers immoral or against the constitution. Tell me how he is nutty again?

You implied that because he's been a sitting Congressman for a while that he therefore could not be nutty. That was your point. I was addressing that point alone.

On why I think he's nutty, I think someone who advocates abolishing the fed is a little eccentric, to say the least. He's playing to the same crowd who join militias, think the UN is taking over the world, etc...

Without a federal reserve (a central bank), how does Ron Paul propose the government control the money supply and control runaway inflation? Any macro 101 student can tell you what a nutty idea that is. If he did away with the fed, he'd have to reinvent it and call it something else. I assume RP believes there should be a federal government if he's running for federal office. If there is a common currency, then the federal government has to be able to control the money supply - who else should do it? The Europeans do it with the European Central Bank in Germany. You can live in a fantasy world believing you don't need to control the money supply if you'd like.

But all this doesn't matter. Ron Paul will never win, and even if he did he could never get the legislative support to enact his radical ideas. So a vote for Ron Paul is a protest vote at best. You might as well vote for Bozo the Clown.

And the fact that he doesn't participate in many congressional votes because he's 'standing on principle' does not impress me. All it shows me is he doesn't care to or know how to legislate in a nation of over 300 million people by compromising and trying to get the best law he can get on a particular matter. Any moron can abstain from votes and claim he's a man of principle. How about actually getting something done for the people?

bin ladin won it. the wimps talk about surrender to islam. mccain is the only one who wants to invade islam with 10,000,000 troops and slaughter the bastards. i'm voting for mccain.

I'm impressed, you demonstrate the economic accumen of a macro 101 student, that is without the slightest hint of critical or creative thought. Are you aware that most central banks are privately held entities? That these banks all share principal ownership and operative boards? You act as though each central reserve bank is autonomous unto it's "home" country, they are not.

While it may take someone slightly more complex than yourself to do it, forming a nationalized central bank who's currency was backed by hard assets would not be difficult.

Such an issuing bank would be either run by the government, or at least very srtrictly regulated. Not the other way around as is now the case. Collapsing and/or booting out the Fed and IRS would open thousands of skilled people to the oportunity of working for a new employer, that is the American republic and it's people

Sadly, you're probably right. Unless something is done about vote rigging, electronic machines, and caging we have little hope of legitimate elections. Given that nearly everyone in now in office got there by such dubious means, it's unlikely anything will be done.

It should, most legislation is rife with corporate handouts, dubious de-regulation, and random pork. This country has more than enough laws on the books, we need representaion man enough to enforce existing laws and uphold the constitution.

First off RP is running for the presidency, isn't he? Secondly, a nation of 300 mmillion has such wide ranging interests and needs that states should be backbone of all legislative process. By centralizing the legislative process those states and regions with less financial and economic recources suffer, exactly what we now have. States can and should be responsible for figuring out their own compromise.

This is the whole point. America needs ethical and intelligent people in office. What we don't need are the slime bag zio-con-republicratic-NWO bureaucratic parasites we have had shoved down our throats for far too long.

Vote ron Paul 08

you wimps wrote:

bin ladin won it. the wimps talk about surrender to islam. mccain is the only one who wants to invade islam with 10,000,000 troops and slaughter the bastards. i'm voting for mccain.

Um, unless are you posting from Iraq, you are pointing at yourself?

you wimp. it's the clash of civilization vs the chimpanzees. the chimps want israel and we won't let them have it. israel should expand into all of palestine, syria, lebanon, and to the nile. the u.s. should civilize all of arabia and teach them english and christianity. we need 10,000,000 american troops to do this. a draft of all 18-35 year olds will be coming. no college deferments or cowardly excuses this time like bush, cheney, hannity, clinton, giuliani, romney, thompson, lieberman, limbaugh, savage, falwell etc. had. your'e in the u.s. army now ! i'm voting for mccain

yea! wrote:

This is the whole point. America needs ethical and intelligent people in office. What we don't need are the slime bag zio-con-republicratic-NWO bureaucratic parasites we have had shoved down our throats for far too long.

Vote ron Paul 08

Yeah, Ron Paul, the man who didn't know the Kurds were the ethnic group in northern Iraq, comes across as so very intelligent.

And the fed is a quasi-public/quasi-private system...see below

The Federal Reserve System (also the Federal Reserve; informally The Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. The Federal Reserve System, created in 1913, is a quasi-governmental/quasi-private banking system composed of (1) the presidentially-appointed Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in Washington, D.C.; (2) the Federal Open Market Committee; (3) 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation acting as fiscal agents for the U.S. Treasury, each with its own nine-member board of directors; (4) numerous private U.S. member banks, which subscribe to required amounts of non-transferable stock in their regional Federal Reserve Banks; and (5) various advisory councils.

RunDaddy....stop arguing with these losers. Let them live in their Ron Paul fantasy land. If they they believe are really getting a raw deal in this country, they're free to go live somewhere else that has nothing but ethical politicians.

Islam: includes allot of people.

Isn't your thinking kind of making matters too simple, worse? Perhaps you should read the "Art of War". Never pick a battle that you can not win. Better to understand the "enemy" and know who or what your enemy really is.

Islam is not the enemy!! I dare say the thinking that your post demonstrates, is the enemy. Simple, violent solutions to a complex problem make matters worse for everyone including practitioners of Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, etc.

Idiots Everywhere?

You certainly top the list.

Thanks for plagarizing wikipedia on the Fed, we're all so much wiser. Not to mention you "copy and paste" skills... stunning! I for one just can't get enough of the kind of "canned" psuedo knowledge people like you and RunDaddy espouse.

Ron Paul supporters aren't going anywhere, more and more Americans are waking up top the disgusting realities of the current American regime, with a little luck we might actually see some real change.

yea! wrote:

Idiots Everywhere?

You certainly top the list.

Thanks for plagarizing wikipedia on the Fed, we're all so much wiser. Not to mention you "copy and paste" skills... stunning! I for one just can't get enough of the kind of "canned" psuedo knowledge people like you and RunDaddy espouse.

Ron Paul supporters aren't going anywhere, more and more Americans are waking up top the disgusting realities of the current American regime, with a little luck we might actually see some real change.

Yes it was wikipedia...so what? I never meant to pass it off as my definition. That's what 'see below' means...referring to some else's definition.

You Ron Paul supporters are really quick. How many 'Ron Paul' dollars does it take to buy that kind of education??

And remember, it's the Kurds in northern Iraq...the Kurds. My 10 year old niece knew that.

I'm with you brother. If Arkansas was so great why did Hillary flee to New York? Beside the fact there are more liberals to love her in New York. I live in South Dakota and we deal with all the extreme right wing bible beat-off's. But the southern states are so backward and uncilvilized that I can't believe they don't write on the cave wall yet.

any enemy of israel is an enemy of civilization and america and we must accelerate the policy of total annihilation of the persians and arabs. we must destroy their chimps ways and convert them to christianity to live side by side with israel. remember the primary goal that bush set down when he took office, was the supremacy of the state of israel. bush took sharon's lead and refused to negotiate with terrorists, and turned the tide against the chimps that clinton had before (coddling the terrorists).

hmmmmmmm wrote:

most certainly not the gays.

POD

You know I agree with you on raising some taxes. Like raising payroll taxes on the total amount earned, not just the first % earned, I don't even know what it is, $72,000? Anyway we look at it, millionares would pay more in payroll taxes and bail out some programs that are in need of money.

What economic prosperity?? Housing problems, unemployment, the econmic attacks on the middle class. I watch Bloomberg TV on a regular basis, the only ones doing well in this economy are the super rich.

Right on man!! Ron Paul knows who is running the country/world, big money. All the corporate media is tied to companies profitting from the war. Iraq is a lie and why isn't anyone being held accountable for it. Iraq is illegal. The cease fire treaty after the first gulf war was with the U.N., not the U.S., since the U.N. did not approve the invasion, Bush violated the U.S. constitution that calls for honoring treaties. But congress doesn't have the guts to impeach Bush and Cheney. '08 Jail to the Chief.

Kurds? Is that all you've got.

Kurds? I see you're hoping this will become RP's albatross...

Maybe wikipedia will list "Kurds" as the gaff that brought down RP. Just think, you'll be able to cut'n paste that too!

As for using someone elses definition, 'see below'.

Next time try paraphrasing, or if that's too complicated just post a link. I'll bet even your 10 year old niece knows that.