recreational drugs - least harm to health?

Caffeine and nicotine are occupational drugs, not recreational. They improve your ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and alertness, they fend off fatigue and hunger.

Nicotine, however, is probably the most addictive drug around.

myth:

[quote]q tip wrote:

people do get high on ecstasy everyday. the worst thing about it that their dosage becomes larger and larger then before so that they can get that feeling of being high.

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what people?

fact: after a few days your body will simply stop reacting to ecstasy... your serotonin stores will be depleted

read shulgin or others and stop spreading myths

wtf -I can't comment really as I have never done it but i think some people would say these exact same things about cocaine"improve your ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and alertness, fends off fatigue and hunger."

voice of reason wrote:

Caffeine and nicotine are occupational drugs, not recreational. They improve your ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and alertness, they fend off fatigue and hunger.

Nicotine, however, is probably the most addictive drug around.

[quote]anEconomist wrote:

wtf -

I can't comment really as I have never done it but i think some people would say these exact same things about cocaine

"improve your ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and alertness, fends off fatigue and hunger."

Your point being?

meaning the last point was not really informative or meaningfulwhat does occupational drug mean? because the definition he gave can certainly apply to substances besides nicotine and caffeine

Sam wrote:

[quote]anEconomist wrote:

wtf -

I can't comment really as I have never done it but i think some people would say these exact same things about cocaine

"improve your ability to perform tasks requiring concentration and alertness, fends off fatigue and hunger."

Your point being?

i've seen this chart a few times, not quite sure the source of the data though:

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/comparecht.gif

if that is a legitimate website that makes mj look pretty tame in terms of addictionbut it is important to remember that is just addictivenessnot danger

keystone light knight wrote:

i've seen this chart a few times, not quite sure the source of the data though:

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/comparecht.gif

please dont squeeze the garmin wrote:

johnny llama wrote: i want to say opiates are the safest

Yup. With heroin, you have only the risk of getting caught; in all other respects it's absolutely harmless.

That's only assuming you have an infinitely supply and are receiving medical grade product.

Withdrawal is not fun and is definitely harmful to your mental and physical health. Same goes for any opiates/opiods.

Overdosing is also a possibility. Even just taking too much, (not having repiratory failure, death) can produce vomiting and nausea. Opiates and opiods are gennerally safer than most drugs though, especially if you know how to dose.

By the way, marijuana can be eaten or vaporized, so you don't have to worry about your lungs as much. I've personally have had the least problems with marijuana and mushrooms out of any drugs I've used.

i myself stick to the EPO

watch out though, it can be quite addictive

q tip wrote:

people do get high on ecstasy everyday. the worst thing about it that their dosage becomes larger and larger then before so that they can get that feeling of being high.

No they don't actually. Your dosage by the time the third day came around would have to be massive. Besides being really expensive by that point, it wouldn't be much fun.

MDMA is not phsically addicting, and you should not do it more than once a month to avoid any neurotoxicity.

If you want the safest, least addicting drugs, try the pyschedelics (LSD & mushrooms are pretty time tested true drugs).

Just be sure to remember the two most important things ever:

Set and setting. Be in a comfortable place with comfortable people in a comfortable mindset.

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Today I smoked a small amount of MJ and then went for a 5 mile hike. The combination of a mild high and vigorous, but not strenuous exercise made for some awesome introspection and philosophizin'. Then on the drive home from the park I started laughing my ass off when I realized that I was bumping my head like a gangster.

Now that is the way MJ is to be used.

Marijuana is fun... it is an enriching thing to use it on a limited basis

in my opinion the munchies are the worst part of smoking weed and not the slight damage it does to the lungs. sometimes i have no restraint and will get so stoned and hungry that i eat a whole pizza hut stuff crust pizza or a gallon of ice cream.

To me the munchies are avoidable. You just don't start eating in the first place. Once you start, you get carried away.

I would argue that ecstasy is just as harmful as crystal meth. Users can overheat, become dehydrated and die. The active component in ecstasy (mdma) is a dopaminergic neurotoxin. The happy-love-everyone kind of feeling you get when you're on ecstacy is the result of your neurons firing in overdrive. They are burnt out - gone - killed. Ecstacy is a neurotoxin. The more often you use it, the more of your dopamine neurons you are killing. It may take a while to see the effects, but they are there.

Dopamine neurons are found in many regions of your brain. One of these regions is the substainta nigra which is responsible for motor movements. When there is not enough dopamine flowing through the substaina nigra, movement become difficult and results in tremors, which is one of the presenting symptoms of Parkinsons Disease.

As we age, neurons die off. This is part of nature. By taking ecstacy, the user kills off these neurons, leaving fewer to be picked off by time and old age. I don't consider increasing the likelihood of being diagnosed with Parkinsons Disease (and at an earlier age no less) minor long term damage.

again exagerrations and statements without sourcesfirst to the point of dehydration... that is actually quite rare and while i agree it is a risk, it is certainly a manageable one as inbe smart, drink lots of water, duh... watch how much you are sweating, dancing, not too difficultyes i know what ecstasy does and the affects, however, alcohol also kills brain cells remember but people drink it all the time and there is no evidence of long term affects on the brainyour statements of increased risk of parkinson's are unsubstantiated, look at the actual studies of ecstasy there has been NO conclusive evidence that moderate use leads to long term damagerepeated and frequent use, perhaps but even that evidence is scant

i thought that article gave a somewhat fair treatment of the topic...

i think what is important to remember is that they always study repeated use... something I agree that should NEVER every be done

they mention a girl who died from ecstasy, interesting that it was from drinking too much water, probably because all she was bombarded with was people telling her... oh my gosh dehydration from it, look out!

Cocaine? The reason I ask is because I have done something similar, I was one of those kids who was on drugs-Ritalin,Adderall about 5-15mg for about 2years.

How come no one has mentioned this drug? I don't know about the scientific explanation for its safe/unsafe but this is what is Alarming: Cocaine is a methampetamine and so is all of those ADD Drugs-Ritalin, Adderall, etc. so the chemical makeup is the same and the purpose of the prescribed med's is a "stimulant to calm you down" Yet there are many users out there who because of access get the same "High" off of ADD Drugs.

These Drugs are often demanded to our children? I wonder what the side effects of use is since many of these are prescribed throughout their schooling (grammar,middle,high,and college) Anyone have any facts? reports?

I'm still waiting for the THC patch. Somebody please post if they ever come out with one.