Indoctrinate U, the documentary college campuses want to ban

Are you saying that tolerant,all inclusive,diversity loving,liberal educators would seek to exclude or ban ideas or thought that may differ from the left wing liberal education that they are trying to inject into our young college kid's

This could never happen on our campuses,I'm sure our prof's and administrators all believe in the first amndt.

The documentary looks terrible. Quoting college students about how much they hate their universities because they arent liberal enough. Showing people who work at universities upset when someone interrupts their day with cameras and assuming they have time to ask question whenever you show up and then spinning it like the universities are hiding something this is ridiculous. There was actually a sign in that doc. that said euthanize christians. The video is actually promoting this diversity of thought?

Ooooh, wow, a professor who doesn't do on-th-spot interviews with whoever barges through security and into his office!

What a piece of trash. Not surprisingly, the director has next to no film-making experience but an obvious agenda. I'd like to know how this drivel was funded.

It's funny, although again not surprising, that *not once* in the trailer is it articulated exactly what ultra-important messages or beliefs are being "suppressed" on campuses.

Stalin Lives wrote:

Are you saying that tolerant,all inclusive,diversity loving,liberal educators

"tolerant, all-inclusive, diversity-loving, liberal educators"

would seek to exclude or ban ideas or thought that may differ from the left wing liberal education that they are trying to inject into our young college kid's

"the left-wing, liberal education that they are trying to inject into our young college kids?"

This could never happen on our campuses,I'm sure our prof's and administrators all believe in the first amndt.

"campuses, I'm sure our profs and administrators all believe in the first amendment."

Liberal education is clearly far better than none at all. Thank you for serving as an effective example of the unfortunate ignorance that results from a lack of education.

I agree that this guerrilla journalism of ambushing whomever you want to talk to is an entirely unprofessional way to go about getting an interview, but keep in mind it is exactly Michael Moore's modus operandi as well. Apparently the lesson is that anyone who wants to make a name for themselves in politically driven documentary work has to follow this approach.

First of all, I was under the impression that the film makers tried to make appointments with some campus big shots but were given the runaround or cold shoulder.

Secondly, poll after poll for decades reached the same conclusion; the academic class (and I don't say that derisively -- I teach a course at a community college) overwhelmingly self-identify as liberal, progressive, or left of center. Voting patterns and giving patterns bear that out.

I think any indoctrination that goes on is a result a singularity of viewpoints, especially in certain departments, rather than a focused effort at brainwashing, although many classes don't really address political or social issues anyway, either because of the nature of the course or the predilections of the professor.

"I didn't know carbon chains had anything to do with politics, but apparently they do..."

Of course they do you idiot! What do you think gas is?!?

stupid letsrunners wrote:

I'd like to know how this drivel was funded.

according to wikipedia, "Indoctrinate U was produced by On the Fence Films with the support of the Moving Picture Institute, and Stuart Browning, Blaine Greenberg, and Thor Halvorssen. The film's executive producers are Stuart Browning and Blaine Greenberg. Its associate producer is Frayda Levy. It was edited by Chandler Tuttle."

as you can imagine, those are largely conservative individuals and institutions.

I will definitely be interested in seeing this documentary, especially after my own experiences on a college campus that is not even considered among the most liberal.

The day after the 2004 presidential election, I had a professor in a class on aging & death start class with a 47-minute rant in which she wept and said at one point that she was afraid the US would revert back to slavery during this administration.

I have also seen liberal professors protest and attempt to upstage a prominent conservative speaker on campus. How is that allowing for the free exchange of ideas?

It's not only the left side that tries to prevent the influence of alternative views, of course. Check out this story, where a signed contract for the deanship of the UC-Irvine law school was rescinded due to the candidate's political views.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/cal/la-me-ucilaw13sep13,1,2507859.story?coll=la-news-politics-california

What happened to the notion that kids should be taught to be able to think for themselves before they leave home for college (or whatever)? The problem today is that parents shelter their kids way too much and are ill-equipped to appropriately handle a difference in opinion and the results are predictable.

To the dude in the video who was in geography class, of course gender is socially constructed. If you differentiate between sex and gender, it will be become more obvious.

i don't even think that's a problem. the vast majority of college students are able to figure out when someone is giving biased information. if this "brainwashing" were actually a problem, i think there might be a few more democrats - let alone liberals - in this country. it's a cute story that gains traction with a segment of society and has a kernel of truth to it. but an effect on students? certainly not in the long term.

No, not a big 'problem' anyway. If anything, the fundie neocons are at least as rife with people who have difficulty thinking for themselves. I was merely taking the premise that the filmmaker's assertions might be valid. I agree with you, it's a non-issue.

orlyfool wrote:

I agree that this guerrilla journalism of ambushing whomever you want to talk to is an entirely unprofessional way to go about getting an interview, but keep in mind it is exactly Michael Moore's modus operandi as well.

Bingo. A few replies have already complained about the impromptu interviews...yet I would bet these are the same people who eat up Michael Moore's shit.

A true liberal (as I claim to be) wouldn't call for the banning of most any material. Rather, I'd demonstrate why it has no factual basis in reality (assuming that is case).

You don't stop bad ideas by trying to supress them; you stop them by showing why they're bad.

Same with Holocaust Denial or Lunar Landing conspiracy productions: if you try to censor them, the producers will use the attempted as censorship as validation of their ideas, wheras if you just presented the facts, every reasonable person would see how they're completely full of shit.

Not a surprise if you live anywhere near the People's Republic of Cambridge.

When did this AR fixation with diversity begin anyway? Anyone fix a date on it?

...and "farenheit 9/11" was funded & produced by the GOP, right?

ROFL.

either way, i know it was funded and produced by people who can spell.

...and?