Boilermaker 2007

Ouch! Ain't that the truth though.

So whats the deal with the name free boilermakers after the race?

This always sounded like a good race, it'd be cool to run it one day. That's a nice area of NY, alot different than the city.

The city of Utica doesn't manage this race. It doesn't make a profit on it. The race is held in Utica and the city does its best to help with it, but it's not a charity event for the city. These are two distinct entities. I will admit that the city has seen more prosperous times, but it's still a nice place to live and work, especially if you don't want to live in a large, congested city with crazy traffic and prefer easy access to outdoor activities. I live on the north side of town and it's just minutes to the Adirondacks.

Commen Cense wrote:

So whats the deal with the name free boilermakers after the race?

Could you reword this? Do you mean

"So what's the deal with the name? Are there free boilermakers after the race?"

The name came from the fact that the race starts at the Utica Boilers building (owned by Earl Reed, the guy who started it) and ends at the F X Matt Brewery (AKA West End Brewery, Saranac Brewery). "Boilermaker" was simply a play on words. They don't serve boilermakers at the party but they do serve Saranac beer.

Jim-pseudo Hooverville was really the wrong term to use. All I meant was that economically, Utica isn't as well off as it once was. Even if the race were held in a much larger city, this would still be a phenomenal event.

Jim, Good luck with everything this weekend. Even as busy as I'm guessing you've been I suspect you still have a 53 and change somewhere in those legs. The race was wise to bring you onboard. Sounds crazy that a race would need somebody to coordinate sub-elites, but having been at the start without a sub elite corral, well, it was an aggravating mess. About the only thing the city hasn't done that would help the race is widen the north end of Culver Ave by 50%. Again, Good luck.

-Beach

JIM. Thanks alot for the reply. I was so excited when i read it i jumped out of my chair. LOL

CLINT VERRAN RUNNING. RUNGURU.COM

Whoa there, big guy, save it for the race!

Scott B, the process has been, uh, "interesting" to say the least. I have a funny feeling that most folks would prefer bulldozing the hill in golf course over widening Culver Ave, though. (For those of you who have not run the B'maker before you are in for a treat. After you enter the golf course and climb the hill, at mile marker 4 you will be greeted by a wonderful view across the valley. If you look down off to your right you will see a huge snake of humans below, winding their way past the reservoirs into the golf course.)

And Scott, don't forget what I've said before: we could use a guy with your knowledge and talent in the club.

I agree with what some of the others have said. While the Boilermaker remains a spectacular event, it started out as a racers RACE. That is certainly no longer the case.

If you want serious competition from more than half the field, this is not the "race" for you at all. If you want to run and enjoy the city of Utica etc., it can't be beat.

Seems the race has changed over the years. For some........for the better, others.....well, not so much so.

As I get older, I appreciate it all more......having said that, my fondest memories of the race are from many years ago as oppoese to the more recent ones.

It is what it is............

I don't understand the criticism that its not a racers race anymore.

Sure the back 11,000 thousand might not be that competitive by the standards of the gifted runners who post on this site.

But that first 100 seems pretty competitve to me. How can the back 11,000 thousand affect the competition of those at the front.

Sounds like a really dumb comment to me.

I think the B'maker is not unique in this regard. Isn't it true that virtually all large races (marathons in particular) have seen an increase in mid- and back-packers? There are lots of folks who just want to participate.

Having said that, there is still some good competition. Heck, the semi-elite break point this year was around 54 minutes and we're looking at nearly 200 people in that corral (not counting elite/invited). Granted, 54 isn't burning up the pavement, but a bunch of those people are masters and many of the younger guys are sitting 48-52 mins.

It's not like you're going to find a lot of 15k road races where there's 1000 people under 55 mins!

Times may be slow this year. Current forecast is warm and humid. There's a ton of water on the course (probably 15 stops at least) so don't let that worry you.

And don't forget to wave to the llamas after you come down the golf course hill!

That is an awfully stupid comment to make. The top 100 people all finish in the low 50s or better, a damn good time. Please explain how the back-packers screw up the "competitiveness" of the race??? If you don't like being in the same field as recreational runners, go try to qualify for the olympics or something. Oh wait, I forgot, you're not fast enough.

But honestly, wouldn't you prefer the 10 minute milers to be out running a road race than having them sit at home at watch tv??

Heck, if you want, you can start in the first corral, run a sub 50, and then immediately bounce. You'll never even have to set eyes on a recreational runner, how great is that!!! Screw the post race beer/awards, its all about avoiding those joggers.

So is there an elite field for this race? Haven't seen anything about any top male and female athletes who are running.

yep. There will be kenyans and some Hansons.

How about a list of names?

A sampling of invited athletes, in no particular order:

Trent Briney

Jacob Frey

Chad Johnson

Nate Jenkins

Linus Maiyo

Samuel Kosgei

Sean Wade

Dennis Simonaitis

Eric Morse

Paul Mwangi

Fay Bradley

Melissa White

Lidia Simon

Zoila Gomez

Nina Rillstone

Tatiana Titova

Just got back from the post race party. I was a hot one today, and humid to boot. Huge turnout. Glad to have met a few letsrunners before and after! Here's the top 40 (full results at leonetiming.com):

1 Nicholas Kamakya M# 1 1/667 M20-24 43:51 4:43 43:51 4:43 Kenya

2 Peter Kamais M# 2 1/593 M30-34 43:55 4:43 43:55 4:43 Kenya

3 David Langat M# 3 2/593 M30-34 44:29 4:47 44:29 4:47 Kenya

4 Patrick Nthiwa M# 4 2/667 M20-24 44:48 4:49 44:48 4:49 Kenya

5 John Gathoga M# 5 1/637 M25-29 44:48 4:49 44:48 4:49 Kenya

6 Dagne Alemu M# 6 2/637 M25-29 45:01 4:50 45:01 4:50 Ethiopia

7 George Misio M# 7 3/667 M20-24 45:10 4:51 45:10 4:51 Kenya

8 Linus Maiyo M# 8 4/667 M20-24 45:12 4:51 45:12 4:51 Kenya

9 Chala Lemi M# 9 5/667 M20-24 45:16 4:52 45:16 4:52 Ethiopia

10 Solomon Molla Tiemuay M# 10 6/667 M20-24 45:29 4:53 45:29 4:53 Ethiopia

11 Ridouane Harroufi M# 11 3/637 M25-29 45:38 4:54 45:38 4:54 Morocco

12 Abera Ertiban Temesege M# 12 1/556 M15-19 46:03 4:57 46:03 4:57 Ethiopia

13 Nate Jenkins M# 13 4/637 M25-29 46:22 4:59 46:22 4:59 USA

14 Jacob Frey M# 14 5/637 M25-29 46:31 5:00 46:31 5:00 USA

15 Chad Johnson M# 15 3/593 M30-34 46:52 5:02 46:52 5:02 USA

16 Mike Reneau M# 16 6/637 M25-29 47:12 5:04 47:12 5:04 USA

17 El Arbi Khattabi M# 17 1/829 M40-44 47:24 5:06 47:23 5:06 Morocco PA

18 Clint Verran M# 18 4/593 M30-34 47:28 5:06 47:28 5:06 USA

19 Patrick Rizzo M# 19 7/667 M20-24 47:36 5:07 47:36 5:07 USA

20 Paul Mwangi M# 20 2/829 M40-44 47:39 5:07 47:38 5:07 Kenya

21 C. Fred Joslyn M# 21 8/667 M20-24 47:43 5:08 47:43 5:08 USA

22 Andrew J. Cloke M# 22 9/667 M20-24 47:49 5:08 47:48 5:08 Elmira NY

23 Seamus Nally M# 23 10/667 M20-24 48:02 5:10 48:01 5:10 USA

24 Dennis Simonaitis M# 24 1/838 M45-49 48:08 5:10 48:08 5:10 USA

25 Peter Kosgei M# 25 11/667 M20-24 48:36 5:13 48:36 5:13 Kenya

26 Gideon Mutisya M# 26 3/829 M40-44 48:43 5:14 48:42 5:14 Kenya

27 Steve D. Soprano M# 27 2/556 M15-19 48:44 5:14 48:41 5:14 Queensbury NY

28 Trent Briney M# 28 7/637 M25-29 48:46 5:14 48:44 5:14 USA

29 Matthew E. Lacey M# 29 12/667 M20-24 48:47 5:15 48:45 5:14 Brookline NH

30 Ryan Pauling M# 30 5/593 M30-34 48:51 5:15 48:49 5:15 USA

31 Colin Carroll M# 31 13/667 M20-24 48:57 5:16 48:54 5:15 West Hartford CT

32 Bart Borghuis M# 32 6/593 M30-34 49:17 5:18 49:16 5:18 USA

33 Brendan Fennell M# 33 14/667 M20-24 49:21 5:18 49:19 5:18 Pearl River NY

34 Lidia Simon F# 1 1/523 F30-34 49:23 5:18 49:23 5:18 Romania

35 Alice Timbilili F# 2 1/691 F20-24 49:25 5:19 49:24 5:18 Kenya

36 Jon French M# 34 15/667 M20-24 49:56 5:22 49:53 5:22 Gouverneur NY

37 Dan Prahl M# 35 3/556 M15-19 50:01 5:22 49:58 5:22 Potsdam NY

38 Josh Henry M# 36 16/667 M20-24 50:15 5:24 50:13 5:24 Truxton NY

39 Gerald A. Greenlaw M# 37 4/556 M15-19 50:21 5:25 50:19 5:24 Warwick NY

40 Joshua C. Arthur M# 38 17/667 M20-24 50:24 5:25 50:20 5:24 Turin NY

what number bib did you have jim, I wanted to talk to you before the race but I didn't know. Also will the tv finish line be up again?